Ace's 2nd Grow: This Time We're Doin' it Outdoors!

So I'm finally getting around to getting this journal started. Due to money being tight, I decided to go for a mixed bagseed grow from seeds found in my favorite buds from last year (Or at least, my favorites of the ones that had seeds, since my true favorites were pure sensi and there were no seeds to be found). The plus side is that I'm having a blast seeing all the different phenotypes express themselves. What's pretty weird is that as time has gone by I seem to have two varieties that are especially strange, one being these short busy girls with super tight node spacing and classic sativa shaped super thin bladed leaves, and these tall stretchy gals with a ton of spacing between the nodes and these big fat wide bladed indica-ish leaves. I woulda thought that the indicas would be the short bushy ones and the sativas long and stretchy but who knows haha. I will post updated pics soon, but for right now I will post a picture of my little crop a few months ago. I popped all the seeds in a 80/20 solution of tap water and hydrogen peroxide, sandwiched between cotton makeup pads in a ziploc bag, put the sprouts on the windowsill in little coco pots filled with Happy Frog, and I put them outside as soon as their second set of true leaves showed. As they've gotten bigger I've repotted them a couple of times, but since I'm using coco pots I just put the pot into the ground in the bigger pot once the roots start to show, and have thus been able to avoid much transplant stress. I have also been trying out LST, Topping, and FIMing on a couple different plants, and it's really cool to see the way they respond to it. When I post updated pics you'll really be able to see. Anyways, enough rambling.

tl:dr: New outdoor crop of bagseed. Lets get to the pics

Okay so here are some more recent pictures. The white stuff you see on the leaves is not powdery mildew it's residue from a calcarb foliar spray, just figured I'd mention it before people ask. Also I know I have pest damage, when they were younger I had problems with sow bugs and earwigs, but now that the plants are established they seem to have backed off quite a bit (also fought the population bloom with a good essential oil spray). Anyways, here they are. Some of them are just about ready to get put into the 15 and 20 gallon pots.

Nice man, I'd love to be able to grow outdoors... when your sprouts popped on the windowsill, did you find the seedlings to be a bit leggy? I usually do mine under a small LED panel, but this time I can't because of space in then tent- so I was planning to just leave my new batch on the windowsill. Should be OK right?

Good luck with your grow man

Thanks! I'd say they should be fine, they do get a tad stretchy but when I replanted them outdoors I just buried the stems up to the cotyledons and they seemed to do fine. I didn't have any get so stretchy that the stem failed or drooped over. If anything just start the soil a little lower than the lip of the pot and fill it up around them as they stretch. Also helps if you put the seed a tiny bit deeper so that by the time it breaks the soil they cotyledons have already opened a little (Although I had a few shallow ones pull the shell up with them and they did fine too)

Ace Yonder said:

Thanks! I'd say they should be fine, they do get a tad stretchy but when I replanted them outdoors I just buried the stems up to the cotyledons and they seemed to do fine. I didn't have any get so stretchy that the stem failed or drooped over. If anything just start the soil a little lower than the lip of the pot and fill it up around them as they stretch. Also helps if you put the seed a tiny bit deeper so that by the time it breaks the soil they cotyledons have already opened a little (Although I had a few shallow ones pull the shell up with them and they did fine too)

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Thanks man.

My new ones looked a little on the stretchy side, but you're absolutely right, nothing too severe! I appreciate your feedback - all the best.

Looking good so far man! Hopefully you'll get a pretty decent yield

morrisminority said:

Thanks man.

My new ones looked a little on the stretchy side, but you're absolutely right, nothing too severe! I appreciate your feedback - all the best.

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Glad I could help!

TheTrippyHippie said:

Looking good so far man! Hopefully you'll get a pretty decent yield

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Thanks! I hope so too!

Time for another quick update! A few pieces of news. Since all the plants finally finished pre-sexing, I transplanted a couple of the nicer looking girls into big pots, and they seem to be taking to them nicely.


Also one of the more heavily LST'd plants is really taking off


Unfortunately one of the other LST plants, the spiral one, has just grown a pair of nuts, so he's gonna be pulled from the garden. Damn shame

Also had one other male that had to get the axe, but overall the ratio was pretty heavy on the females, so i consider myself exceedingly lucky. Also it seems like a couple of the girls have already gone into full on flower mode, so they unfortunately won't be getting put into larger pots since by this point they really won't have too much more root growth so it would just be pointless stress.


Finally just a couple more random shots of the various plants. All the remaining plants pictured are females, though most of them are just pre-sexing, only two have started full on flowering (Since the light conditions, nutrients, and everything else are the same, I'm assuming that the early bloom is just a genetic trait of those two since the plants all came from different seed stock, and even the plants from the same seeds are showing different phenos)

Thinking about spraying with BT as a preventative measure since I'm having fungus gnat problems and moths become a real nuisance this time of year, don't want to wind up with budworms and the like. I figure since I won't be harvesting until around october (maybe november even since I have a few Cali Mist and Haze bagseeds in there) it should be plenty of time for it to wash off without affecting harvest. Think I'm right and it's safe to spray the whole plants (including the ones that just started blooming) or should I just do a drench of the topsoil every few days to kill off the larvae and such?

Culled the males today, but before I put them to the axe I did a little snipping and collected their naughty bits in case I want to do some selective pollinating. Still felt bad cutting them down. A little sad now.

Just another Picture update. These shots were taken after dark after spraying a light foliar of calcarb, magnesium, and potassium bicarb. We are having perfect powdery mildew weather here, so I figured an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure (Quite literally in this case). I still think its funny that two of them are full on flowering under the exact same conditions as the ones that are still vegging, must be strain/pheno differences since all the seeds came from different plants. Probably gonna be an early harvest on those two. Anyways, enjoy the pics and let me know how the plants are lookin'!
Peace!

A few more daytime pics

Just a few more dusk pictures of some of the standouts! Some of these gals are getting pretty big! (At least in my humble opinion)
How are they looking to more objective viewers?

Tallest:


Most Tops:


Biggest Overall:


Most Developed (in terms of bloom)


Runner Up for Tallest/Biggest:

Okay dear readers, we are in line for another exciting update! Looks like some of the girls are turning out much frostier than I expected from bagseed, gotta say I'm a happy papa right now, can't even wait to see what they look like by October. Gonna be a painful wait! Also, added in two pictures at the end of some super super sativa leaning plants that have a TOTALLY different bud structure and have just started really blooming, they probably won't be ready til sometime in November by the looks of it, I'm thinking those are the seeds from some local Haze I had a while ago.









That's all folks! Cheers!