Acapulco Gold, Colombian Gold or Panama Red?

well I'm back everybody! I thought I was going to score colombian gold today, however I had to settle with Jack Herer and after pulling apart my first bud, I had found a Jack Herer seed, tiger striped and looking like a very good bean. The CG is 2 hours away from where the other pots are found, and colombian gold is in a red zone :O!!!! that means guerilla warriors and other non-american shit goes down, even ganja man doesn't go there.

although this thread isn't about JH, I feel like my eyelids are smiling because I am so blitzed right now !!!!! This is my first time toking Jack Herer, and I've got to say I am hooked on trying proven strains

you KNOW someone is a jaded smoker when they say:

I had to settle with Jack Herer

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i think most people in most locations might call that a huge step UP

I'm an old hippie and remember many of the old strains that are mentioned, one Mexican batch that came thru in early '69 supposedly originated from Michoacan, it was a very light lime green color, with extremely large speckled seeds, seemed to be almost 3x the size of regular beans. The smoke had a taste that I remember to this day, very smooth and extremely tasty, all you needed was a couple tokes to get the desired effect, which was very psychedelic at first followed by mellow relaxation and finally deep sleep. The Michoacan was only around for a couple days and then it was gone. There were plenty of Asian weed coming back also at the time, don't know whether it was Thai or Vietnamese, most was on sticks, some as large as fat cigars.
By the late '60s there was plenty of high end Afghani wafer and Nepalese Temple Ball and finger hash, it had a great taste, exceptional high.

Michiocan was another legendary strain. if you listen to cheech & chong records, "los cochinos" i think, there's an early bit with sgt stadanko & sister mary elephant (before she started yelling "class... class... class... SHUT UP!) where the latinos start talking about weed and one keeps saying "michiocan! michiocan!"

I think these are panama red seeds. http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/search?query=panama
And i found some acapulco gold seeds. http://www.worldwide-marijuana-seeds.com/products/barneys-farm-acapulco-gold

But are they real?

riogrande said:

I think these are panama red seeds. http://www.herbiesheadshop.com/search?query=panama
And i found some acapulco gold seeds. http://www.worldwide-marijuana-seeds.com/products/barneys-farm-acapulco-gold

But are they real?

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Yes, thats also the closest I can find to Panama Red strain from the seedbanks.

there's an auction site i've seen mentioned here a couple times that claims to have REAL panama red as well as an insane sativa called "black haze". according to the people who've dealt with the site, their gear is legit. there's at least one member here too who swears by ace seeds' gear.

hopefully, my last 50% columbian gold seeds starts rooting properly after i sunk it when the center of the stem dried out in a cocoia pellet, but i don't expect it to be my "best" plant if it does. i'll be SCROGing a bunch of stuff that should get one high with jack's cleaner 2 being the one i expect to perform the best in the fastest time... a lemony 9 weeks haze that's trippy sounds interesting, but i bet the longer flowering stuff, particularly malawi gold if it's legit will smoke better. i have a "jack" i'll be testing as well as auto jack based on the cinnamon girl pheno of herer.

sn00ze said:

Yes, thats also the closest I can find to Panama Red strain from the seedbanks.

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Really!!?? I'd definetly buy some if they are pretty close in genetics to the original panama red! Has anyone grown this out who is an old timer from the days of the real panama red? Does it compare?

Colombian Gold, or Panama from Ace seeds seems nice, a few pheno's
Acapulco Gold seems like a glorified Mexican Sativa to me

I can vouch for the ACE Panama Red being real high end South American genes. I only had Mexican and some Colombian, a little supposed Yucatan and later some Oaxacan back in 70's and 80's.

The ACE PR is the real deal as it tasted right and effect is similar to better old school strains. I did not have Panama Red back in the day, so as to it being that exact strain, that is a question I cannot answer. There was Colombian Red back then and that could be labeled Panama if the dealer thought it was sexier. A lot of people think Colombian Red was the same as Panama Red, just grown in another country, so who knows really?

I am going to give it some uvb light next run, as the sativas need this to reach full potential.

all these strains were regulars in my area of the south in the 70/80s. The only one I'd grow to remember is maui Wowie. Even bought some Maui Wowie in Maui in La Haina (spelling) during a vacation in the late 80s. 4 and 5 finger bags were the norm back then. If you are older then 40 you may remember what a 4 finger bag is? Good stories and memories guys.

long time has passed but i need to say this.... if u guys really want to know what a potent sativa can do, u need to come here to colombia and get seeds from serious people who are in cannabis comunities(unfortunetly undercovers) that have been growing this strain for years.... colombian gold is a very unique strain....the seed u get in grow shops or seed banks are back crosses...not pure...the real colombian gold takes 16 weeks to flower in fast cases....but no matter what...this really worth it... is a real trip...REAL...u literaly cannot scape from the effect of this baby...if anyone someday come here...write me...

peace!

Alcapulco Gold in the late 70's early 80's the sweetest yet extremely potent bright bright yellow
similar to Thai Stick
Panama Red remember 8 people knocked on their behinds staring at a 747 passing by in the sky
Have to say to the young fellas those land strains might of taken longer to flower who knows I was not there!
But Red and Gold is some Kick A__ Smoke no doubt!

People think the smoke we had back some decades ago was crap compared to today's stuff. A lot of it was but for sativa lovers, there were a few smokes you would have a hard time equaling today.

I remember Alcapulco Gold (gold/with a little bit of red),Colombian Gold (gold/w a bit of greenP and Panama Red (red ) & thai sticks (wrapped around the stick)..I remeber smoking all of them..They all was ass kickers...All you needed was one hit...you knew you was going to be on an adventure...Also your mind was always racing (can i get some of this shit)!!!That was some serious toking....i'm over 50, Not senile either ,lol

You guys are so whack. Only reason that stuff was good back in the 70s was cause everything else SUCKED so bad.
Its like smoking a bag of oregano, then smoking a bag of SHWAG. Of course the shwag is going to be much much better than the oregano.
I have probably smoked more Columbian Gold than most people on this site combined. Yes it was good back when I was young, but once again only because everything else was SHIT.

althor said:

You guys are so whack. Only reason that stuff was good back in the 70s was cause everything else SUCKED so bad.
Its like smoking a bag of oregano, then smoking a bag of SHWAG. Of course the shwag is going to be much much better than the oregano.
I have probably smoked more Columbian Gold than most people on this site combined. Yes it was good back when I was young, but once again only because everything else was SHIT.

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Maybe your Columbian Gold was not that good, but the little Colombian Gold I had was. See, that stuff was so potent it made you misspell Colombian. hehe

I and others have said most of the stuff back then was low grade and yes that means quality would stand out more, but that is not to say the quality of then is inferior to today's better smoke.

You think I am suffering from nostalgia but I think you are suffering from selective memories of a negative sort. I will take today's pot and growing situation ( I am in California with med card) all day over the 'good old days'. I prefer my homegrown indicas for night time relaxing and had almost no access to them long ago.

That does not mean I have no good recall of superior sativas from back then. I said the Panama I grew out compares nicely to the old pot, and of course no leaf, stem, seeds and cured and stored perfect.

Even with all that, it is not quite on par for psychedelic properties of pot grown in South America. I intend to do better growing it next time with some uvb and narrow the difference down.

i started out smoking imported california grown columbian gold sinse in the early 80s until it vanished around 1987 and was forever replaced by the stony afghani crap you STILL can't get away from in greedy ass NYS and even better markets. it wasn't until last year that my suspicions that what everyone called thai really was gold last year wheni talked to a cali native. WTF did anyone know about flavors back in the 80s? thai isn't piney, it's fruity

i tell you though, jack's cleaner 2 is plenty nice to me as a sub and HQS' haze x skunk ain't shabby either. it's lesstrippy and more clear headed, but way more resinous and potent with less couchlock & tolerance fallout in a very nice long lasting high

If you are older then 40 you may remember what a 4 finger bag is?

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no, but i do remember $40 quarters of awesome gold turning into $50 eighths (!!!!!!!!) of afganicrap in the space of just one winter

What do the words feel like as they spill out of your mouth like so much diarrhea? Are they soft like lukewarm Spaghetti-Os ? Or are they hard like Alpha Bits when the milk runs out halfway through the bowl?

In other words how hard are you thinking when you post your "experiences"?