Dr.D81
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Yea and the woven shit last a lot longer. Heard of guys getting 11 years out of it as opposed to 4 on greenhouse poly like I have
AACT, Bloom Tea, Veg Tea, Fungal Tea, Myco Tea, recipes from the outdoor guys.
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ShLUbY
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the only way to find out is to do a side by side with the current methods you employ in your grow. not everyone grows the same, and what works well for some, may not show results with others that they are looking for. just saying, everyone has their own little things they do... try it out and see for yourself!
Yea you're right about that. I've got only one pot so I can't really do side by sides yet. Lets say your plants are dark green, healthy and you have amended enough to last the whole grow. Would you feed it a veg or bloom tea still? When my veg plants are yellowing or getting light Ill brew a tea for 10 mins then top dress. Theres been lots of talk about teas lately Im wondering if I'm missing out on anything.
ShLUbY
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if you have a fully amended soil, i dont think youre missing out on anything. but if you knew a tea that boosted PK or something and proved to work, then yeah i would say go for it. it's just hard to tell unless you do side by side, stay organized, keep notes, and all that jazz. I have a grow log i keep outside my room to try and keep track of everything i'm doing in there so i don't let the side effects of the medicine make me forget what i watered last time lol. was it aloe, or coconut? shit, i don't remember!
pics brotha. if it's not broken why fix it? when you run into a problem you'll realize it..
Its not broke. I'm just wondering if I could get anything extra out of my plants with a veg or bloom tea. I've been seeing lots of posts and threads about teas lately so I've been wondering if it would help or be counter productive if I brewed a tea. I saw someone post about not being able to burn your plants because its organic and what not earlier in this thread, but I have burned the crap out of mine before. I'm trying to get results that are just as good as if I had used veg and bloom teas.
ShLUbY
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nah you're not missing anything in veg. a simple Kelp + alfalfa tea at 1tbsp of each per gallon of water, bubbled for 24hrs is all you need for veg, and if you have amended soil, you really don't even need to. AACT is the only tea that you should be doing every 4 weeks or so (some argue you dont even need to do it that often). just good to make sure microbes are alive and well in the soil!
ShLUbY
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one more thing.... your source of HUMUS is the most important aspect of your grow. focus on the humus, not the teas.
Dr.D81
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I have to agree and disagree with @ShLUbY yes focus on your soil first and for for most and the plants take care of them selves. I was talking to @papapayne just the other day about how i obsess about my soil, and have not found a bag mix i like. Funny part is i can make several mixes depending on what i can find at the time but cant find a bag mix. That said IMO you do still need teas because when you "brew" your tea you are growing colonies of arobic bacteria as well as separating fungal growths that you then introduce to soil. I also make other batchs of tea that are specific fungal teas as well as enzymes teas. I introduce pest, pm, and bud rot controls in them by adding og bio war roots and Actinovate in sometimes. I am always brewing something i just change the ingredients up.
ShLUbY
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i totally agree with the AACT, that one is a standard for any organic gardener... and same for the SST/enzyme teass, and fungal dom teas to i suppose. i was just referring to guano teas and things like that. i guess i should have been more specific. i know that they also do provide bacteria and the like, but i just feel like they are unnecessary in amended soils if you're trying to jam more nutrients in there.
Dr.D81
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Well now that is a good point for the guys here new to a more organic growing style is you dont need to feed the plant you have to feed your soil
What was in your teas? I might have went too heavy on the alfalfa. If your soils heavily amended, I doubt adding more food (teas) to feed the soil is going to do much until whatever nutrients are there starts to get used up. I always thought top dressing and nutrient teas were a "different strokes for different folks kind of thing". You amend and top dress ahead of time as needed, then use teas when you need a quick nutrient boost. Maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't the same types of bacteria and fungus grow when you top dress and keep your soil moist? I'm trying to find a reason or way to stop brewing teas all together so I can get to know my blumats better.
papapayne
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Oh yea...whats in my teas.
This needs a big upgrade due to size but
I have a ten gallon trash can - fill up with RO water or at least water with no chlorine
I add 4 large handfulls of EWC
Half a jar of molasses
OG Bio War
then about a 1/2 cup of:
Alfalfa meal
kelp meal
Seaweed extract
fish emulsion
guano
Brew for 2 days, then I add mycos and brew for another 4-6 hours.
This needs a big upgrade due to size but
I have a ten gallon trash can - fill up with RO water or at least water with no chlorine
I add 4 large handfulls of EWC
Half a jar of molasses
OG Bio War
then about a 1/2 cup of:
Alfalfa meal
kelp meal
Seaweed extract
fish emulsion
guano
Brew for 2 days, then I add mycos and brew for another 4-6 hours.
papapayne
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I've heard, never used one though. That a compost tea bag will hold the debris together so it wont clog blumat lines, and foliage prayers. I see them at nurseries, and grow,stores. They look like an all mesh bubble bag almost. Might be the ticket,for,ya to use blumats with tea.