A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

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Samwell Seed Well

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Oh shittt burn of the year right there
ok . . . but tbh

less

burn

more truth

i did grow those, im not afraid of high qaulity photos to actually show the outcome of my endeavors

and Arjan of GHS is a hack of a breeder, and yes Dutch breeders are bogus . . . .

it aint a burn when its real . . . when it is reality . .

And SNOW(of Snow High Seeds) and 4Dragons(seeds of compassion) are Old School Sativa Breeders . . .in America . .not some dutch watered down BS . .. . .
 

Samwell Seed Well

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My problem with vert has been plant lean. I either had to rotate them or eventually had to stake them up
Sorry Didnt see this until a second ago


I was told by my bud Ganjapharmer that rotating is bad, the light and points of light your plant will have in vertcle will also be points of distribution for growth auxin's and its more efficient for the plant to maintain a set gruop of growth points vs be moved around and have the points of auxin distribution change all of the time . .


my plants stayed in same eplace, with minimal leaf death . .. .and i defoliated (UB will not say to ever do this , ever if possible) and cut off nodes and branches during early flower . .. first ten days . . . it is less about design as it is about air movement . . .. any dead zones will become an issue
 

a mongo frog

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Here's a few of mine, pic 1,2 og kush, pic3 sour D, and pic 3 just a root ball pic.
All plants were grown using snake oils. Aqua Flakes base nutes, and 1 bloom booster, and what some r calling a ripener. Also all plants had the bottom third striped of all lower foliage. I'm real happy the way things turned out for me. There r tons of ways to grow, everyone enjoys growing their way. So it doesn't mean your a dip shit, or r wasting this or that cuz some one else doesn't grow like u.
 

HeartlandHank

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::snipped:: You like most have never grown a sativa
::snipped::
I've got no beef with Samwell, but, this is so damn true. I've posted pics of my 14+ wk SSH and had people give me shit for airy buds..:roll:..

I know your O Haze is further into sativa than I've gone. But, if you're gonna judge someone by their plants... don't go after someones far leaning sativa plant.

Most people see this and think...junk... terrible grower..
They have no clue....
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patlpp

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I wouldn't. Those look excellent. I don't care if you took a bath in Dyna-gro , those are indeed noteworthy. looky all those hairs!! 70's hairy !!
 

Samwell Seed Well

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nothing wrong with a good sativa . . . .ive grown 16 week 16 dom stardogs(older release)(fuck ive grown crosses that run 16 weeks . .) never any close to 100% sativas . .. and they deserve their due just as much as anything indica . . . .. or any hydrid of the two . . and auto flower . . .. they all deserve their due


indica ..sativa . . ruederallis . . .and all in between . . if its dank and grown with care thats all that matters . .
 

Uncle Ben

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I believe that much of the evidence on which we base the success of our business is largely anecdotal. It lies within our observations, which for better or worse, are colored by our own perceptions.

We interact with our peers, we watch and subscribe to consumer and industry trends, we gather feedback from growers, users, and the "medical" side of the cannabis industry which is wraught with a coverup for substance abuse, greed, and mis-representation.

I do not mean to make light of the power of these observations, because they provide us with valuable insights and perhaps we can grow from those experiences. However, this method of measurement alone cannot adequately benchmark how well we are doing or whether there is room for more.

UB
 

Dboi87

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I will get the show started since some folk seem to be shy

my latest efforts
Nug shots and smoke reports !

Biker Kush
This was my 3rd run of biker kush, on previous runs it was overshadowed by the larger haze plants i was also growing which resulted in biker not being able to fill as much space
this time round she had all the space she needed to develop into a very large bush (23 oz)
this is the best run of biker i have had















the pheno i have kept is very much on the hash side of flavour with a combined
fudge/caramel taste, the smell is sweet and hashy a very full flavour
noticeable on both the inhale and exhale with a good amount of expansion
the smoke from this one is very oily in texture it coats the mouth with flavour
and leaves a sweet after taste it is very moreish
potency is good fast onset not a creeper can at times feel a little confusion of thought
a bit racy at first this settles into a nice warm feeling time becomes quite distorted
a potent hybrid type of potency excellent yield , i can find very little negative to say about this plant
only thing i can think of is in veg it does not grow symmetrical it spits shoots out randomly
up and down the stems, this makes it a little harder to keep very small mother plants
as the bottoms of these plants have no shoots lol just sticks

Taste 9/10
Potency 8/10
Yield 9/10


Fire Alien Kush grown from seed, 21 days veg 9.5 weeks flower yield from both plants was 11 oz combined



















Both FAK phenos produced nuggets rather than colas, although they kept their weight quite well for small plants,
they have both provided a nice smoke, both now tasting lemony and sweet, not so much of a powerful oily expansion as the biker kush, FAK taste thin in comparison
where this one excels is potency
i am finding this one very long lasting 2-3 hours easy from 1 joint
very strong physical rush, nice tingly feeling allover the body
its quite numbing, with less mental stimulation , less edgy than biker kush
i am alert when smoking this
not really coach-lock weed, but after a few joints it will put me to sleep just like biker kush does
this is good weed to chill out with when not much thinking is required

Taste 7/10
Potency 9/10
Yield 6/10


Happy brother bx2 grown from seed 21 days veg 10 weeks flower













you can't win them all !
this strain was overall quite disappointing
i do not know if the phenos i got are a fair representation of the clone only
since i have never sampled it
both phenos of HB bx2 i had were very slow growing and low yielding
both phenos remind me very much of NL crosses but without the great vigiour and yield of NL
the taste the bud structure the bud leaves very much NL but with some sk#1 traits too
the smell and taste is also similar to some of the blues phenos i grew recently
both plants lacked resin compared to most indica doms
The taste is mixed fruit or NL he high is pleasant and light for an indica
this is daytime lady weed or weed for lightweights
it's a fairly nice smoke flavour wise once i get over the disappointment of it not being anything special

Taste 6/10
Potency 5/10
Yield 3/10

final thoughts Biker kush is quite easy still the overall winner for me, and i would highly recommend it
FAK is nice, although the high price of the $eeds and mutated growth patterns make me wonder how many phenos would be needed to select a good all rounder could work out costly

Happy brother is not so happy LOL

Peace :)
What were your yields?
 

skunkd0c

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I've got no beef with Samwell, but, this is so damn true. I've posted pics of my 14+ wk SSH and had people give me shit for airy buds..:roll:..

I know your O Haze is further into sativa than I've gone. But, if you're gonna judge someone by their plants... don't go after someones far leaning sativa plant.

Most people see this and think...junk... terrible grower..
They have no clue....
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This is the sister of your SSH, and somewhat more sativa leaning (mango haze)
sativa or sativa dom hybrids bud/colas do not have to be small or airy
if they are this is not a desirable trait , that is what breeding is for to select those which
show desirable traits like compact flower formation
i am sorry but this "its a sativa" is an excuse further inquiry is necessary
to establish why UB's weed looks like the kind of weed Tarzan should be smoking

mango this plant yielded 21.5 oz



















peace
 

Dboi87

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Sorry Didnt see this until a second ago


I was told by my bud Ganjapharmer that rotating is bad, the light and points of light your plant will have in vertcle will also be points of distribution for growth auxin's and its more efficient for the plant to maintain a set gruop of growth points vs be moved around and have the points of auxin distribution change all of the time . .


my plants stayed in same eplace, with minimal leaf death . .. .and i defoliated (UB will not say to ever do this , ever if possible) and cut off nodes and branches during early flower . .. first ten days . . . it is less about design as it is about air movement . . .. any dead zones will become an issue
Yea. I had to stake them up or they tipped. One other problem was that the leaves behind the plant got no light and died off. I think I read it has something to do with them not getting enough light to use enough co2 during photosynthesis so it signals the plant to drop those leaves. I think a simple reflective or white surface could fix it but I had to move right after switching to flower.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Yea. I had to stake them up or they tipped. One other problem was that the leaves behind the plant got no light and died off. I think I read it has something to do with them not getting enough light to use enough co2 during photosynthesis so it signals the plant to drop those leaves. I think a simple reflective or white surface could fix it but I had to move right after switching to flower.
idk . . . .i had often thought of adding UVb bulbs or T5's to the corners . . obviously im a little lazy . . so i never did it . .but in the end, i just trimmed . . . i did not have a record harvest on my verticle crops . . .i did however get a very even canopy of growth . . .. and since i did it in a room that was less then 7 feet tall i figured i coudl improve later with more cieling . . .

reflecting of light is hard mark to count on . . . .it degrades quickly . . .best to rely on large amonts of light .. . your plants cant work more then the light allows them too . .

i had 4k in a 6.5"x 8" x 7" about 350-400 cubic feet . . . and tbh way to much light . . but i did my best at my first attempts at vertical . ..
 

Dboi87

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I've got no beef with Samwell, but, this is so damn true. I've posted pics of my 14+ wk SSH and had people give me shit for airy buds..:roll:..

I know your O Haze is further into sativa than I've gone. But, if you're gonna judge someone by their plants... don't go after someones far leaning sativa plant.

Most people see this and think...junk... terrible grower..
They have no clue....
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I met a guy from cali that owns a dispensary and he was telling me how sad it was how many good strains will fade if things keep going the way they are. He was saying that he would have some of the most amazing weed that had heavenly highs but people kept opting for the strains with bag appeal and strongest smells. Trics and stank. He was saying there were strains that were grown to perfection but were naturally airy or maybe not the greenest color or whatever other physical traits they may have had so people wouldn't touch them.

Take Dr. Grinspoon for example. If people didn't know it was from Barnys and was supposed to look like that, no one would try it. They'd laugh and criticize the grower.
 

Uncle Ben

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Mods, lock the thread.

It's been trashed by the Culture of Political Correctness and dumbshit bottom feeders.

UB
 

Darth Budder

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time for this thread to get deleted... Man, love the help you've given UB, but can't stand with this, reported.

and no, i didnt report the rap video for saying the same word, because i dont care what you say, context counts.

Time for this thread to get deleted again.. mods?

DB
 

Blaze31

Member
Well I'm done with this thread and it should be deleted at least the last few pages. I don't get people these days. If you don't like what ya read find another thread that's why there's plenty of them or make your own. I read and take from other what I want but if you gotta start saying the stuff that's being said I'm sure there's a pm button. I got a lot off this thread uncle Ben and half it was started the way it was.
 
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