a mediocre shroom garden thread

farmerfischer

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I'm trying my luck in cracked corn and rabbit shit. day four and the myc. is starting to really take off, it's really liking the rabbit turds.. A friend from a different site sent me ksss ( koh samui super strain ) prints. this is my first time trying to grow shroom so fingers are crossed. anyone here have success with rabbit shit? and any thoughts about the ksss? is it a good shroom?
 

farmerfischer

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I also have a lc started and the myc don't want to let go of the bottom of the jar when I swirl it..any tips on getting it to let go? some are free but the bulk of then won't let go.
 

psychedelicdaddi

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I also have a lc started and the myc don't want to let go of the bottom of the jar when I swirl it..any tips on getting it to let go? some are free but the bulk of then won't let go.
I'm trying my luck in cracked corn and rabbit shit. day four and the myc. is starting to really take off, it's really liking the rabbit turds.. A friend from a different site sent me ksss ( koh samui super strain ) prints. this is my first time trying to grow shroom so fingers are crossed. anyone here have success with rabbit shit? and any thoughts about the ksss? is it a good shroom?
Wow smart idea with the rabbit manure. Never heard of koh samui. What was your ratio of corn:rabbit manure? You should have placed a marble in your LC before sterilizing, I prefer ptfe stir bars so I can set it on a plate for 12-24 hours once or twice a week. Oh, to fix the problem now, you could sterilize a metal skewer, slide to the bottom through your syringe port and stir it around. Wipe down your lid with iso after as well. You don't want any sugar water on the hole when you're done. But be careful not to let your iso drip through the hole. Silicone syringe ports are helpful for this and you would need a filter disc as well on the lid so when you were to PC the jar, a vacuum doesn't form AND honey water doesn't squirt out through. Syringe Filter Lc Lid Tek With Self Healing Injection Ports ... https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/9326-syringe-filter-lc-lid-tek-with-self-healing-injection-ports/
 
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Tankado78

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if you are going to fill the jars close to full:
so, fill 11 of your 12 jars with rye berries and then proceed to empty them into a nice clean pail or two. Add a pot (or more) of fresh coffee (also toss in the grinds, it REALLLLLLLLLY accelerates mycelium growth rate) and about 4-6 T of gypsum. Fill with water an inch of two higher than the berries. Let them soak for 24 hours, add more water if the berries have soaked up too much. Then cook them in a large pot on medium heat for 30 minutes, start the timer after the water is clearly steaming. 20 minutes works too. Strain them through a large wire strainer if you have it. Let them sit in the strainer for 3-5 minutes so they have no excess liquids. You just want saturated berries. Fill your jars just over 3/4 full and you'll have some extra berries. Add it to the jars if you have space. You dont NEED to shake your jars after PCing like many teks suggest. If they are already soaked then cooked, they will be perfectly fine. Now, if you dont let them strain then you may have to shake your jars. But shaking them, to me, is sketchy unless done very very carefully.. Anyway, knock them up with LC if you have it and they will explode white. I actually havent done bulk spawn with spore syringe, but im sure itll perform excellent as well.
Hey all!
I started another batch of rye berries. This time I'm try the coffee n grinds this time around. Definitely curious as to how this will come out. The first 5 I've done on Monday I've left in the PC until 2 moro nite when the berries with the grinds will be ready to cook n PC. So, most likely I'll be looking to inoc all 10 jars by Sunday/Monday. Hope everyone have a awesome wknd n good to see ya back posting @farmerfischer!
 

farmerfischer

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Wow smart idea with the rabbit manure. Never heard of koh samui. What was your ratio of corn:rabbit manure? You should have placed a marble in your LC before sterilizing, I prefer ptfe stir bars so I can set it on a plate for 12-24 hours once or twice a week. Oh, to fix the problem now, you could sterilize a metal skewer, slide to the bottom through your syringe port and stir it around. Wipe down your lid with iso after as well. You don't want any sugar water on the hole when you're done. But be careful not to let your iso drip through the hole. Silicone syringe ports are helpful for this and you would need a filter disc as well on the lid so when you were to PC the jar, a vacuum doesn't form AND honey water doesn't squirt out through. Syringe Filter Lc Lid Tek With Self Healing Injection Ports ... https://www.shroomology.org/forums/topic/9326-syringe-filter-lc-lid-tek-with-self-healing-injection-ports/
I'm just experimenting with ratio, so I went 60% Rabbit m. to 40%crack corn. I have the jars incubating, and haven't check them yet today, but i think my lc is contaminated. the fuzzy white puffs, a couple look like they have a dark gray specs in them. mold? or normal for lc?
 

psychedelicdaddi

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I'm just experimenting with ratio, so I went 60% Rabbit m. to 40%crack corn. I have the jars incubating, and haven't check them yet today, but i think my lc is contaminated. the fuzzy white puffs, a couple look like they have a dark gray specs in them. mold? or normal for lc?
Nah not normal but I use honey lc. I get gold flakes , identifying lc contam is tougher than brf. You may see nice white puff that is actually a contamination. So, always good to sample to be sure. I personally have ruined a few dozen brf jars in one noc up by using bad LC. Then didn't know til I went to fruit and yielded nothing but worthlessly stubby fruits and trich.
 

farmerfischer

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yeah my lc is honey water, one with a little honey and one with a teaspoon of honey .. this is the light honey , started on the 26th or four days ago.0930171500b.jpg 0930171502.jpg
sorry horrible camera ..
 

psychedelicdaddi

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yeah my lc is honey water, one with a little honey and one with a teaspoon of honey .. this is the light honey , started on the 26th or four days ago.View attachment 4019355 View attachment 4019356
sorry horrible camera ..
Looks ok though. I would use it on a half dozen brf to see what it does. Give it a little longer to colonize of course. That's going to be quite a lot when all is said and done!
 

farmerfischer

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from what I've read Thai-koh samui super strain( ksss) is a fast colanizer and one of the more potent shrooms around. I'm looking forward to getting some fruiting..lol. this strain is supposibly easy to grow so it's good for begginers such as my self.. we will see..lol.
I didn't have the stuff to do brf so I used what I had on hand(crack corn)
today however I did get the ingredients for the brf tek. so later on I'll be preparing that's stuff, seems simple enough...
 

Tankado78

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Hey my Mycology buddies!
1st n foremost, @psychedelicdaddi, FUK’N AWESOME!
I see you experimental tek is nothing but a huge success! Can’t wait til you put ya stamp on it n then see others use it, that way I can be like...... I know the Creator!! Lol. So stoked that it turned out great. You know eventually once I’m comfortable with or master other teks, I’m definitely gonna give that one shot. It’s like having a baby n being a father of the 1st born! Lol. Quick question to all..... So 2 day is the day that I will finally pasteurize the Hpoo. My question is, if I had brought vermiculite already pasteurized or sterilized, would it make sense to add it with the Hpoo during pasteurization or would I be able to wait til the Hpoo is done n then mix the vermiculite n gypsum in? I know I asked a million times, but if anybody can think of any other combos for a substrate other than the Hpoo n verm, plz let me know! I have pre pasteurized straw n also coir. I’m looking to try out different substrates or different combos of substrate.. Not sure if 1 combo is better than the next, but I guess that’ll be my test as well other than actually just trying to use up the substrate. As always, thank you in advance n keep the pics coming everyone! I’m gonna go back n drool over Psychedelicdaddis’ awesome cultivation! Don’t front.... you guys know ya going back 2 look 2! Great work once again Psychedelicdaddi!!!
 

psychedelicdaddi

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Hey my Mycology buddies!
1st n foremost, @psychedelicdaddi, FUK’N AWESOME!
I see you experimental tek is nothing but a huge success! Can’t wait til you put ya stamp on it n then see others use it, that way I can be like...... I know the Creator!! Lol. So stoked that it turned out great. You know eventually once I’m comfortable with or master other teks, I’m definitely gonna give that one shot. It’s like having a baby n being a father of the 1st born! Lol. Quick question to all..... So 2 day is the day that I will finally pasteurize the Hpoo. My question is, if I had brought vermiculite already pasteurized or sterilized, would it make sense to add it with the Hpoo during pasteurization or would I be able to wait til the Hpoo is done n then mix the vermiculite n gypsum in? I know I asked a million times, but if anybody can think of any other combos for a substrate other than the Hpoo n verm, plz let me know! I have pre pasteurized straw n also coir. I’m looking to try out different substrates or different combos of substrate.. Not sure if 1 combo is better than the next, but I guess that’ll be my test as well other than actually just trying to use up the substrate. As always, thank you in advance n keep the pics coming everyone! I’m gonna go back n drool over Psychedelicdaddis’ awesome cultivation! Don’t front.... you guys know ya going back 2 look 2! Great work once again Psychedelicdaddi!!!
is the vermiculite already moist? if not it will throw off your %moisture when you mix it all up. If it is at the correct moisture already when you bought it then it could work fairly well being mixed in along with your grain spawn. But, I would personally mix it together prior to pasteurizing. This way you KNOW you're going to be successful. The less you deviate from certainty when learning the better. This way you can see some successful runs, then when you are just growing an occasional garden you can try it a little different but with the hands of experience to give you an upper hand.

I may write up the tek after a few more of my own successes. I birthed another this morning. It colonized just fine. Pics later!
 

DankTankerous

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Looking great y’all!

My Blue Mystic is growing a little slow right now, but I have two suspicions. First one is, it was shocked somehow. The cotyledons yellowed really quick and the tips of the first true leaves started to turn yellow. I didn’t feed it, so maybe it needed nutes? Second suspicion is the LED lights just suck. It’s true wattages is 50 and i’ll Be putting the second one in for a total of 100 watts. Last grow it finished at 10 weeks which seems a bit too long for a high percentage indica. So yeah i’ll Be replacing those lights when I build a larger cabinet. But for now they’re working in the computer case

I threw the B+ bag out. I bought the bag of from out-grow and they were a lot more different than the ones from shroom supply (mazatapec was innoculated in the two bags from shroom supply). First out-grow instructions said to pull the bag’s front and back side to pull in air through the gas exchange patch. It filled right up where as the bags from shroom supply wouldn’t. Also it didn’t have a self-healing injection point. It did innoculate the bag with a previously used spore syringe. It was done in a still air box and the syringe was wiped down and sterilized. You can re-use syringes right?
 

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farmerfischer

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Looking great y’all!

My Blue Mystic is growing a little slow right now, but I have two suspicions. First one is, it was shocked somehow. The cotyledons yellowed really quick and the tips of the first true leaves started to turn yellow. I didn’t feed it, so maybe it needed nutes? Second suspicion is the LED lights just suck. It’s true wattages is 50 and i’ll Be putting the second one in for a total of 100 watts. Last grow it finished at 10 weeks which seems a bit too long for a high percentage indica. So yeah i’ll Be replacing those lights when I build a larger cabinet. But for now they’re working in the computer case

I threw the B+ bag out. I bought the bag of from out-grow and they were a lot more different than the ones from shroom supply (mazatapec was innoculated in the two bags from shroom supply). First out-grow instructions said to pull the bag’s front and back side to pull in air through the gas exchange patch. It filled right up where as the bags from shroom supply wouldn’t. Also it didn’t have a self-healing injection point. It did innoculate the bag with a previously used spore syringe. It was done in a still air box and the syringe was wiped down and sterilized. You can re-use syringes right?
far as I know you can reuse syringes as long as you flame the needle and wipe everything down with alcohol .. should be fine
 

gNOME42

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Hey my Mycology buddies!
1st n foremost, @psychedelicdaddi, FUK’N AWESOME!
I see you experimental tek is nothing but a huge success! Can’t wait til you put ya stamp on it n then see others use it, that way I can be like...... I know the Creator!! Lol. So stoked that it turned out great. You know eventually once I’m comfortable with or master other teks, I’m definitely gonna give that one shot. It’s like having a baby n being a father of the 1st born! Lol. Quick question to all..... So 2 day is the day that I will finally pasteurize the Hpoo. My question is, if I had brought vermiculite already pasteurized or sterilized, would it make sense to add it with the Hpoo during pasteurization or would I be able to wait til the Hpoo is done n then mix the vermiculite n gypsum in? I know I asked a million times, but if anybody can think of any other combos for a substrate other than the Hpoo n verm, plz let me know! I have pre pasteurized straw n also coir. I’m looking to try out different substrates or different combos of substrate.. Not sure if 1 combo is better than the next, but I guess that’ll be my test as well other than actually just trying to use up the substrate. As always, thank you in advance n keep the pics coming everyone! I’m gonna go back n drool over Psychedelicdaddis’ awesome cultivation! Don’t front.... you guys know ya going back 2 look 2! Great work once again Psychedelicdaddi!!!
Well i think you should mix it in because you want it at field capacity before you pasturise
Other combos of sub out there
Well it depends on the strain you are growing some are wood lovers like the azurenscens some need poo like pan cyan some just need something to break down like most of your cubensis but all need a bit of gypsum all can profit from spent coffee grounds being added but yeah straw will work and coir as well but poo is somewhat digested straw
I saw in a book about growing different mushrooms a table with information on growth of oyster mushrooms with different substrate and poo came out the best for yield straw second and i can't remember the rest
You can go as far as to train your mycelium to break down a certain substrate then using the trained mycelium to colonise your grain and you will have faster and better mycelium growth
 

psychedelicdaddi

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Looking great y’all!

My Blue Mystic is growing a little slow right now, but I have two suspicions. First one is, it was shocked somehow. The cotyledons yellowed really quick and the tips of the first true leaves started to turn yellow. I didn’t feed it, so maybe it needed nutes? Second suspicion is the LED lights just suck. It’s true wattages is 50 and i’ll Be putting the second one in for a total of 100 watts. Last grow it finished at 10 weeks which seems a bit too long for a high percentage indica. So yeah i’ll Be replacing those lights when I build a larger cabinet. But for now they’re working in the computer case

I threw the B+ bag out. I bought the bag of from out-grow and they were a lot more different than the ones from shroom supply (mazatapec was innoculated in the two bags from shroom supply). First out-grow instructions said to pull the bag’s front and back side to pull in air through the gas exchange patch. It filled right up where as the bags from shroom supply wouldn’t. Also it didn’t have a self-healing injection point. It did innoculate the bag with a previously used spore syringe. It was done in a still air box and the syringe was wiped down and sterilized. You can re-use syringes right?
draw up some isopropyl alcohol into the syringe,
bring some water to a boil,
squirt out the iso back into the bottle after it has sit inside for at least 30 seconds,
draw up boiling water into the syringe and squirt back into the pot, draw up and squirt it back 4-5 times.
clean the cap with iso and pour it out, let it dry upside down while holding it with sterile gloves on. it takes only 30seconds or so.
no need to flame sterilize this way since iso should come in contact with the entire syringe tip inside and out. (step one)
just cap and spritze the outside of the needle with iso, air dry momentarily, and place in a brand new ziplock bag that has never been opened.
 

psychedelicdaddi

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Looking great y’all!

My Blue Mystic is growing a little slow right now, but I have two suspicions. First one is, it was shocked somehow. The cotyledons yellowed really quick and the tips of the first true leaves started to turn yellow. I didn’t feed it, so maybe it needed nutes? Second suspicion is the LED lights just suck. It’s true wattages is 50 and i’ll Be putting the second one in for a total of 100 watts. Last grow it finished at 10 weeks which seems a bit too long for a high percentage indica. So yeah i’ll Be replacing those lights when I build a larger cabinet. But for now they’re working in the computer case

I threw the B+ bag out. I bought the bag of from out-grow and they were a lot more different than the ones from shroom supply (mazatapec was innoculated in the two bags from shroom supply). First out-grow instructions said to pull the bag’s front and back side to pull in air through the gas exchange patch. It filled right up where as the bags from shroom supply wouldn’t. Also it didn’t have a self-healing injection point. It did innoculate the bag with a previously used spore syringe. It was done in a still air box and the syringe was wiped down and sterilized. You can re-use syringes right?
you may be in need of a bigger pot!
 

DankTankerous

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draw up some isopropyl alcohol into the syringe,
bring some water to a boil,
squirt out the iso back into the bottle after it has sit inside for at least 30 seconds,
draw up boiling water into the syringe and squirt back into the pot, draw up and squirt it back 4-5 times.
clean the cap with iso and pour it out, let it dry upside down while holding it with sterile gloves on. it takes only 30seconds or so.
no need to flame sterilize this way since iso should come in contact with the entire syringe tip inside and out. (step one)
just cap and spritze the outside of the needle with iso, air dry momentarily, and place in a brand new ziplock bag that has never been opened.
Wouldn’t dipping the needle have the same effect, rather than drawing? Because what if you suck up the ISO where the spores are at?
 
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