800 watt bridgelux outdoor floodlights grow

MrFlux

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You can ask if it's really Bridgelux chips (or dies) inside, i.e. one of these.

Btw I discovered that Vero's probably don't contain Bridgelux dies... can you ask who makes the Vero dies for them?
 

Chronikool

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Just to expand on the 'genuine' bridgelux question...

I understand they have a specific architecture (like cree, osram etc)

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Is there a way to check this so that a 'homebody' like me can confirm that they are really bridgelux chips used?
 

nevergoodenuf

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They told me to be 100% sure, they would have to destroy a chipset. Not going to happen. They will try to verify, as you put it, that it is there architecture.
 

happy75

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Just to expand on the 'genuine' bridgelux question...

I understand they have a specific architecture (like cree, osram etc)

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Is there a way to check this so that a 'homebody' like me can confirm that they are really bridgelux chips used?
Just to expand on the 'genuine' bridgelux question...

I understand they have a specific architecture (like cree, osram etc)

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Is there a way to check this so that a 'homebody' like me can confirm that they are really bridgelux chips used?
Hi, you can take a microscope to check the dies out. Bridgelux or cree has its own structure. Problem with the chinese leds (with bridgelux dies) is that the chinese ledcompanies can't or won't exactly construct the led per light colour (3000K/4000K/5000K/etc). Last year I was selling these chinese lights in my country. Thought of having medium quality for a cheap price, but when had one light tested professionally the quality was very poor. Poor led, poor driver, poor heatdisspation and very poor constructing.
Since that test I was busy trying to find out how those chinese manage to put that light together. Last week they told me that they had no clue what the techinal specifications were (they only knew a rough estimate of the voltagage and current) and had no clue what the lightcolor of the led was they used. I had some shipments of chinese lights with 5500 K but when I tested one of them, the led was 7000K+. They told me that was a minor difference... :shock: Well...no chinese lights for me.
 

nevergoodenuf

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Thank you 2 for those useless posts. Next questions?


Happy- What was the name of the company you used? I guess you should have went with a different company or made sure you were happy with their drivers and chips? So far they are working great. Maybe you should have tested them before you bought them? That's how I'm doing it. The company I'm using has been very open to the changes I have asked for.
 

happy75

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Thank you 2 for those useless posts. Next questions?


Happy- What was the name of the company you used? I guess you should have went with a different company or made sure you were happy with their drivers and chips? So far they are working great. Maybe you should have tested them before you bought them? That's how I'm doing it. The company I'm using has been very open to the changes I have asked for.
Yeah...good advice..not. The company I used was Voled Lighting. They were also very helpfull with lot of things, packaging, light adjustments, wiring and so on. They wanted to do everyting for me. But the materials they are using are poor and construction was also very poor.

There are millions of these companies, and all offer the same kind of service and lighting with (I presume) the same quality. Difficult to select a company that knows what they are doing. My experience is: if they say or state something, let it check by a professional in your country.
 

medicinehuman

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I used Joy hydro grow and did ok on 1 grow then it lost it's umph. looked inside and very cheap. heard some really bad ones on this and many others. There is just way too much different parts. My first light was an ebay light that was all red and blue, talk about a dud.
 
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nevergoodenuf

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Just got back from Bridgelux. They could not do the lumen test because of the size of the the light. I guess the test sphere is only a little bigger than a basketball. Not sure, didn't get to see more than the lobby. They did look at the chips through a microscope and said they are as sure as can be without breaking it that they are their dies. They had nothing bad to say about the light. The seem to think the heatsink is just fine for the amount of power. And no complains with the driver chosen. Here's a pic of part of their display.
 

MrFlux

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That's pretty good customer service from Bridgelux.

I read that they have only 120 employees. All production facilities and patents have been sold to Toshiba.
 

nevergoodenuf

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The new light is in. I have already taken off the cone and test the light spread with the cheapest light meter. I do like the way it looks with the HPS hood. I might run about 12 FireOG under this. I might start another thread this light when it is up.




 

AirAnt

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unimpressed. beginning to think the 'white led' wave is a noob trap. did NASA pick white LED's because they were the most optimal for photosynthesis or because that's what the human eye is most adjusted to? those buds are tiny, you could get better with an HPS, and HPS aren't particularly well-adapted to plant specific spectrums by any means.

I believe white light is only needed for the tiny, tiny, extremely tiny amounts of green and yellow light that plants need but growing primarily with it you might as well be flushing lumens right down the fucking drain for all the good they're doing.
 

FranJan

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unimpressed. beginning to think the 'white led' wave is a noob trap. did NASA pick white LED's because they were the most optimal for photosynthesis or because that's what the human eye is most adjusted to? those buds are tiny, you could get better with an HPS, and HPS aren't particularly well-adapted to plant specific spectrums by any means.

I believe white light is only needed for the tiny, tiny, extremely tiny amounts of green and yellow light that plants need but growing primarily with it you might as well be flushing lumens right down the fucking drain for all the good they're doing.
Nah, white is more of a stopgap than a noob trap IMO. Monos performance is just not there yet and whites really help in providing marijuana with an efficient light source, (with the bonus of some "broadness" to the light source), which MMJ loves. So in a way white LED growing is akin to HPS growing, though I think of phosphor based white LED growing as super high performance CFL growing. And NASA is a bad example since they make decisions based on other factors than a home grower would. They gotta conserve energy and there is stuff like weight and I'm sure a hundred other things which I don't have a clue about. I may be spaced out but I'm no space man :eyesmoke:!

The problems with whites is too many people just assume the white they got is made with a tech that will grow plants efficiently. Whites need to be chosen correctly, otherwise you are pissing away lumens like you said. Some whites are just better than others.

Personally I like both, but like using less white in flowering than others like to. And that's the thing. It's personal preference. There is no right and wrong way like some tool-bags on this site like to say. Lotsa grey if ya know what I mean.

Peace AA
 
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