69 hours of Darkness...To start flower.

Yes Dave like u said the timers finished with that one....

Greenhouse;save said:

Yes Dave like u said the timers finished with that one....

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I agree, but I believe it was you I posed that same question to. Right? But, I don't remember getting an answer. Can hormone levels be measured without the help of Monsanto Labs?

No u have got me mixed up with someone else my Freind.I did watch the thread but didn't post on it much.....but it matters none everyone to their own as they say...

And if u r interested imo I say no not without proper data can such measurements b made....only my op...

Greenhouse;save said:

No u have got me mixed up with someone else my Freind.I did watch the thread but didn't post on it much.....but it matters none everyone to their own as they say...

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See post #13, this thread.

Greenhouse;save said:

And if u r interested imo I say no not without proper data can such measurements b made....only my op...

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...and you may have the cart before the dead horse. You cannot get the data without the measurements. Being able to extract the hormone data IS the way to easily determine if the concept is all wet or not. My mentor did not have that data either...all he did was take 8 plants and stick them in the dark for 5 days, while putting 8 sister plants outside. He then put them back together for the final 60 or so days. Same genetics...same pretty much everything. IHisO, those that started in the dark were significantly advanced. Enough so, where it became his method for over a decade...he needed no more convincing. Pretty sure my second grow will have a side by side also. I have been made skeptical of this method just by the overwhelming opposition here but am I absolutely convinced?...No. Regardless, lets return to watching things grow at least until Mr. Supertramp responds. I am about a month away from the finish and I am so amped about it I could carry my dead horse the last 5 miles to Deadwood.

Lol mate my lights r out for flower and I have to return to the real world but I will continue our disscution tomorrow.I like ur attitude towards growing it does interest me so untile then be safe and b healthy greenhouse;dave that's wot my profile was meant to say.....

bravedave said:

The horse is dead...However...
What say YOU to this...?

"I went 24/0 in Veg for almost 6 weeks. So I also lost over 10 days of darkness there compared to someone running 18/6. Do you think my plant hormone level was the same as someone going 6 weeks at 18/6? " Similarly, do you think I generated any additional hormones in the 69 hours as opposed to someone doing 12/12 immediately and thus half the amount of darkness in those 3 days?

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Yes the plants hormone levels were about the same. And no because it takes energy to produce hormones. After about 24 hrs of darkness the plant had run out of stored energy. Research plants and their circadian rhythms and you will understand. Its not magic, its botany.

Alexander Supertramp said:

Yes the plants hormone levels were about the same. And no because it takes energy to produce hormones. After about 24 hrs of darkness the plant had run out of stored energy. Research plants and their circadian rhythms and you will understand. Its not magic, its botany.

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I actually have been reading about circadian rhythms...but cool, so how did you measure these hormone levels?

I am not going into semantics with you. No way I can compete with a first time grower. Grow on....

If Pippy Longstock decides to add some meat on her bones she is going to be something special.

Went out to button up my veg cabinet early this morning after another cool night and came across an issue in my flower room... I couldn't understand it at first as I had never seen frost when it was still in the 60s...then it hit me... frost is good

Frost seems a bit slow in starting but I don't really have anything to compare to except all of the poker players here.

LSTed the shit out of my clones that are waiting in the wings. (First time I have LSTed and Topped) Damn I wish they would slow down. I also will be culling at least 8 beautiful babies this weekend.

"...The sun came out today. We're born again. There's new grass on the field."

Today marked the end of 7 weeks so 50 days of 12/12 tomorrow. Brought pictures to my mentor this weekend to evaluate...he says 65-70 days (I was hoping for 60 ).

Here are some examples of my first LST job:

50 days. Sweet and heavy.

Just went out to check on the girls this morning after a rather cool night and spent a little time tying up some heavy buds. Now back inside I notice my fingers smell wonderful...and I seem compelled to smell them. Reminds me of coming home after my first car date.

bravedave said:

Just went out to check on the girls this morning after a rather cool night and spent a little time tying up some heavy buds. Now back inside I notice my fingers smell wonderful...and I seem compelled to smell them. Reminds me of coming home after my first car date.

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if it smells at all after a car date its not wonderful LOL

Liddle said:

if it smells at all after a car date its not wonderful LOL

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"It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."

bravedave said:

"It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."

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Epic