650w of cobs in a 4x4 tent - a grow log
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who are you buying from? I have the same space
Gquebed
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With only four grows the focus should still be on environment don't ya think?
I mean genetics would help but to me good genetics in a bad environment is kind of a waste...lol
Dial in the environment is job one to me.
Yodaweed
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Genetics are the most important part of growing in my opinion
Gquebed
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Ya. If you know how to set up a space and grow well. I agree. Different priority.
But if you're learning.... I think that comes first.. learn how to set up and grow then worry about the rest....i figure...
ganjafather27
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Small update.
I'm gonna give the ladies 3-4 more days to veg, then it's lollipopping time. Plan to switch light schedule in about 10 days.
Jack in the back, querkle in the front:
I'm gonna give the ladies 3-4 more days to veg, then it's lollipopping time. Plan to switch light schedule in about 10 days.
Jack in the back, querkle in the front:
ganjafather27
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Hey fellas, small update, lollipopped yesterday, plan to flip in 7-10 days depending on how they feel.
My first time ever lollipopping or doing any branch training/manifolding so please drop some words of wisdom if you see something I'm doing wrong or not doing. Thanks!!
My first time ever lollipopping or doing any branch training/manifolding so please drop some words of wisdom if you see something I'm doing wrong or not doing. Thanks!!
DrBlaze
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Got to agree with this. If you're growing shitty genetics, you might not know whether its a problem with something you're doing or if its just shitty genetics. If you have some good gear, at least you know what its capable of, and you can dial things in as you gain experience. Good genetics aren't wasted, since you can keep cloning your plants for years.
ganjafather27
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You agree that tga subcool puts out shitty genetics? What breeders do you recommend?
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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imho there are hardly any shitty genetics around anywhere anymore....even bagseed..
but if you cannot grow then even the best genetics won't work
DrBlaze
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Would never say that... I was just arguing a point that had nothing to do with TGA. Having said that, a lot of his genetics aren't stabilized, which allows for pheno hunting and the opportunity to find something outstanding and a bit rare. But this also means that some phenos WILL be shitty. You might need to crack 10-15 seeds to find a keeper. I think this is one of the biggest mistakes newer growers make. If you get a freebee or two (from many different breeders) and grow it out,, it may or may not end up being representative of that strain.
True enough, though I think the biggest threat is unscrupulous vendors who may try to sell bogus seeds. IMO always try to buy directly from the breeder when possible.
DrBlaze
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Nice setup btw, no doubt you'll be seeing improvements in your results
ganjafather27
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Thanks and what you said about breeders makes alot of sense. Just so many factors to growing dank weed, it makes it hard to really nail down what could be going wrong.Nice setup btw, no doubt you'll be seeing improvements in your results
And for these strains, I only popped 5 seeds of the Jack and 3 from the royal querkle, so it makes alot of sense that I could just have a couple Underwhelming phenos.
Thanks for the wisdom
ganjafather27
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Hey there fellers, I totally abandoned this thread a while back due to being busy....and lazy lol. But thats ok, cause the boring stuff is skipped (yet I have pics) and flowing is 23 days in so far.
BUT things are going fucking great! I dont wanna jinx myself, but this looks so much better than my past grows, likely due to all the massive changes i made to lighting, ventilation and training technique in veg.
SOO I'm gonna flood this post with pics I've taken the past month in a half. Thanks for looking!
BUT things are going fucking great! I dont wanna jinx myself, but this looks so much better than my past grows, likely due to all the massive changes i made to lighting, ventilation and training technique in veg.
SOO I'm gonna flood this post with pics I've taken the past month in a half. Thanks for looking!
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ganjafather27
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Cob rails all finished!
Here they are in action in a 4x4 tent:
I'm glad I painted the rails flat black. Gives it that extra 5% making it look a little less DIYish:
Here the girls are a week or so after installing the cobs; they really started blowing up:
Here they are in action in a 4x4 tent:
I'm glad I painted the rails flat black. Gives it that extra 5% making it look a little less DIYish:
Here the girls are a week or so after installing the cobs; they really started blowing up:
ganjafather27
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12 days after cobs:
I should have started topping and tieing sooner, but since I delayed it, I extended the veg period quite a bit. Also, the lady in the top right corner, while trying to tie it a little further, I completely split her main stalk vertically. I thought I killed her, but she actually never seemed affected. It did however, make my canopy very uneven in that corner, due to the fact that I needed to leave her alone.
26 days after cobs:
38 days after cobs, flipped to 12/12 2 days prior:
I should have started topping and tieing sooner, but since I delayed it, I extended the veg period quite a bit. Also, the lady in the top right corner, while trying to tie it a little further, I completely split her main stalk vertically. I thought I killed her, but she actually never seemed affected. It did however, make my canopy very uneven in that corner, due to the fact that I needed to leave her alone.
26 days after cobs:
38 days after cobs, flipped to 12/12 2 days prior:
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ganjafather27
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Do I start counting flowering days when I flip to 12/12? Or is it when the girls start showing?
These are 11 days after flip:
13 days after flip:
Having 3 rails in their own frames, as opposed to framing it as one unit, is really making the uneven canopy a non issue. Just another bonus of these cobs compared to the hps I switched from.
15 days after flip:
These are 11 days after flip:
13 days after flip:
Having 3 rails in their own frames, as opposed to framing it as one unit, is really making the uneven canopy a non issue. Just another bonus of these cobs compared to the hps I switched from.
15 days after flip: