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630w DE - CMH?

Discussion in 'LED and other Lighting' started by Canadian4meds, Sep 26, 2016.

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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Yes, 1000W Low Freq Square wave. I have 3 of these on hand lol
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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Which "Blue Cobs" are you using?
     
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    DesertHydro

    DesertHydro Well-Known Member

    not the horticultural blue cobs that citizen just released a while back but the blue spectrum 6k citi 1212's
    the flowering rigs are 1212's and cxm22s in 3-3500k pushing like 37w each
     
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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Are you not happy with the veg performance of the 6K's?
     
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    DesertHydro

    DesertHydro Well-Known Member

    fuck yes I am happy with them. they are hard to learn at first, they are SUPER POTENT and you have to keep them higher than you would think and feed a bit heavier than you would think as well. once I raised my lights and dialed them in they would slay it in veg......and in flower for that matter, I have one veg rig built and 5 or six BIG flowering arrays that will do a 4x4 with ease at 600w. if I crank them to 880 you gotta put your fucking welding goggles on :)

    that doesn't mean I'm not interested in CMH or QMH or quantum boards/photon fantom boards. they say the benefit of the 315s is multiple light points, more uniformity etc. with the COBs I'm pushing ~40w per sqft in flower, one cob per sqft over the entire grow.

    I'm thinking 315s for my veg area, and COBs/DE for my flower. I really wanna do CMH because I like the CRI values and ease of working around. its hard to read the plants in that orange fucking hps light.
     
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    nizzaofficial

    nizzaofficial Member

    I apologise for not being specific when I was talking about the photons...

    I don’t really like to compare efficiency with HPS and CMH I think that maby wrong in a way because don’t forget your plants.

    I like both HPS and CMH. All lighting is good for there own application and all plants are different.

    If you mix CMH with HPS you get the best of both worlds,
     

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    Dynamo626

    Dynamo626 Well-Known Member

    Bam! 3 horti platinums wow lol. That thing retails for 600.
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    See why I love my 6500K 1212's so much :bigjoint:
     
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    blissfest

    blissfest Well-Known Member

    So what is the verdict on running double ended 630 watt CMH In a Gavita turned down too 600? Is there a frequency issue, spectrum issue? Thanks for any factual thoughts :)
     
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    Dynamo626

    Dynamo626 Well-Known Member

    manufacturers claim the lamps were not made to handle the high frequency of the ballast. i ran one just fine for 3 months on a dimmed galaxy ballast in a covered hood (just in case) until i got the ballast made for them. as for spectrum. would need a spectra graph to know for sure the difference there
     
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    blissfest

    blissfest Well-Known Member

    So are you sayin the boys that built the fixtures are not wanting certain bulbs in them? Because they are not getting a piece of the pie?
     
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    digging

    digging Well-Known Member

    From what I understand CMH lighting works best with square wave ballasts.
     
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    Bakersfield

    Bakersfield Well-Known Member

    Low frequency bulbs put in high frequency luminaires = shortened life of bulb, somewhere on the order of every 4 weeks for some.
    The real thing is right around the corner and I am excited.
     
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    hybridway2

    hybridway2 Well-Known Member

    I've been trying to figure out the difference between the Vendor SunPlix "FuzzyLogic Tech" & other low frequency square wave ballasts.
    To me it appears they are the same. Doing what digital ballasts do, compensate for the bulb.
    Anyone know enough to speak on whether the "FuzzyLogic" thing is any more then just that?
    Considering testing CMH against my LEDs & HPS but only want to get the newest tech.
    I know they veg like no other.
    @OneHitDone, I know what you mean about the a Daylight Blue MH being the same w/ less efficiency but I don't thinking is. Close but no Cigar. Have you seen how well these things veg? Over n over I've tested my LEDs vs my DaylightBlue Mh & time after time they all seem to even out in veg between the Amare, HH, & 600 BLUE MH. But these here cmh's I think are what it takes to get that outdoor veg plant. The 4k in DE is sick. At least the bulbs SunPlix offers. It's the sun in a bulb.
     
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