5k watt grow! Just wondering if anyone had an idea of lbs I would crop!

This is getting to be a bigger and bigger joke honestly. The more nonsense you talk the more I just feel like laughing at you rather then being nice and helpful.

" Being able to pull auto flower clones, keeping them alive n getting a half or so off each one in only 5-6weeks of flowering for it to grow is a task."
" I didn't pull those fan leaves until almost 4 weeks into flowering which at that point they are almost useless " - and I bet you pulled all of them at once too

Lmao seriously? Really you need to stop reading all the cannabis growing info and study plant biology a little bit. The plant wouldn't have those leaves if they were useless, and you ripping them all off at once is gonna stress your plants. I'm all for SELECTIVE pruning and leaf removal, but stripping your plants is laughable.

For a little while I thought this was someone trolling us trying to get a rise from us..

This dude bout to be homeless come harvest time.

Never done anything this scale but 4 1ks seems a little much for a 8x8, seems you could have done fine with 600s instead. But I am about efficiency in my garden not throwing as kuch light at them as humanely possible. Its already been said a couple of times but you are definitely gonna fall short of 5lbs.
You gotta remember that mote light does not definitively mean more buds, never grown those strains but if you think they are all gonna pull 3zips a peice you are mistaken. They just dont have the structure for it, not all 17 atleast.
The part of your math I think you are failing to take into account is yes 17 plants @ 3-4 zips a piece would put you close to your goal. But that would be 17 plants with similar growth like clone or something, you have plants of various growth times in there thinking they will yield the same. Or atleadt that is how I am reading your yield calculations.
You can just dismiss what I am saying I guess since really I just wanted to get my name in the hat foe your equipment LOL

Nicklesac said:

Ohhhhhhh yeas they do

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All them little charts showing how cfl's put out such high volumes of light are very misleading & borderline sales fraud , not trying to be a dick but a simple measurement of lumens from cfl's with a meter shows the truth .

My grow is entirely different from yours with different set up , different strains , different lighting ect so cant comment on exacts , what i can do is give you comparable harvest weights based on overall wattage used in your grow & using an 8 x 8 area such as yours .

I run 4ft x 8ft ( 32 sq ft ) hydroponic flood tables so 2 of my tables will equal your 64 sq ft grow area .

I run 3 air cooled 600 hps over each table so thats 3,600 watts lighting used in a 64 sq ft area such as yours .

I pull just over 6lbs from each 4 x 8 area every 8 weeks so that would be around 12.5 lbs from the 64 sq ft your using , my weights are normally right around 1.5 grams per watt .

From what i see your gonna have a hard road to hoe trying to pull down even 5lbs from what you have going on , even if you hit 5lbs with over 5,000 watts being consumed by the grow you realize thats less than a half gram per watt , after electric costs, supplies & materials your profit margin is gonna be miniscule .

Again im not busting your balls , what i am trying to do is educate you where you make max profit with the space you have .

If your willing to make some drastic changes in your current set up you can pull double the low weight , high per gram cost that i & other members are seeing your gonna end up with .

Are you stuck with that damm tent or can you stop using it & grow unrestricted in the same 64 sq ft the tent is taking up ?

natro.hydro said:

Never done anything this scale but 4 1ks seems a little much for a 8x8, seems you could have done fine with 600s instead. But I am about efficiency in my garden not throwing as kuch light at them as humanely possible. Its already been said a couple of times but you are definitely gonna fall short of 5lbs.
You gotta remember that mote light does not definitively mean more buds, never grown those strains but if you think they are all gonna pull 3zips a peice you are mistaken. They just dont have the structure for it, not all 17 atleast.
The part of your math I think you are failing to take into account is yes 17 plants @ 3-4 zips a piece would put you close to your goal. But that would be 17 plants with similar growth like clone or something, you have plants of various growth times in there thinking they will yield the same. Or atleadt that is how I am reading your yield calculations.
You can just dismiss what I am saying I guess since really I just wanted to get my name in the hat foe your equipment LOL

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This made me LOL . Thankyou for that.

Op doesn't care.he's gona be a millionaire bruh

Id say 2-3 oz per plant

Nicklesac said:

Obviously quality comes first. But I mean if I don't pull 4-7 lbs I've wasted a lot of time,money n energy. I will have put six-seven months of hard work in n will be super bummed if I don't hit my minimum mark of at least 4ozs a plant average.. It's just kind upsetting to get on here n just have like 6 different people just bashing on you n you're grow that you've put so much time n effort into...

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Look here bud , we have all been exactly where your at right now , lotsa cash spent , lotsa hopes & dreams based on the harvest & lotsa mistakes where we all fuked our grows up , some people are laughing because their not sure if its somebody pulling our leg & fukin with us , your all over the place with this grow .

If i was in your shoes i'd start a new thread titled " This is what equipment & space i have , what are my options " .

Seriously , you need to reorganize & get a handle on this shit before it handles you , you've got equipment some accomplished growers dream of having & its being seriously misused , your harvest isnt even gonna give you 1/3 of what your equipment is capable of producing & your in over your head , with the 5kw lighting you have running you could be pullin down 10lbs every 8 weeks easily your 1st time at bat , with a properly set up grow .

You dont just have a few crappy plants & some cfl's scattered around , YOU HAVE A BUSINESS , as with all successfull businesses you need to have a workable business model in order for the business to be profitable , right now your winging it & hoping for the best when you should be reevaluating your business position .

You have some seriously good mj farmers here wanting to help you , in order for that to happen your gonna have to make some tough choices bud , throwing good money at a bad business model will never save a business , your electric bill is the money going out the window & you need to stop the bleeding .

Again if it were me i'd start from scratch ( i have done that on a members advice ) i'd start rounding up clones right now all from one strain , i'd pick a heavy yield easily grown strain like sour diesel or white widdow & start planning my next grow properly , i'd also start the thread , giving all the info i could & rework my business model into a viable grow based on room conditions , grow space , available equipment , my own skill set & i'd ask members to help me plan a proper grow using what you have now .

I wasted so much money , time , effort & lost weight until 2 members ( Albfuct & Filthyfletch ) woke my old ass up & helped me do it right , we will help you , serious growers are part of this allready , i will mentor you personally if need be .

You need to shut that grow op down & restructure it if you want to be successfull .

I hope he pulls his projected weight lol I know my first go round i had 1200 watts in a 6x6 and i pulled 11oz dry in dwc. Should have listened to advice that was given to me, dont move so quick op having read something and actually applying it is 2 different things listen to these guys.

panhead said:

My grow is entirely different from yours with different set up , different strains , different lighting ect so cant comment on exacts , what i can do is give you comparable harvest weights based on overall wattage used in your grow & using an 8 x 8 area such as yours .

I run 4ft x 8ft ( 32 sq ft ) hydroponic flood tables so 2 of my tables will equal your 64 sq ft grow area .

I run 3 air cooled 600 hps over each table so thats 3,600 watts lighting used in a 64 sq ft area such as yours .

I pull just over 6lbs from each 4 x 8 area every 8 weeks so that would be around 12.5 lbs from the 64 sq ft your using , my weights are normally right around 1.5 grams per watt .

From what i see your gonna have a hard road to hoe trying to pull down even 5lbs from what you have going on , even if you hit 5lbs with over 5,000 watts being consumed by the grow you realize thats less than a half gram per watt , after electric costs, supplies & materials your profit margin is gonna be miniscule .

Again im not busting your balls , what i am trying to do is educate you where you make max profit with the space you have .

If your willing to make some drastic changes in your current set up you can pull double the low weight , high per gram cost that i & other members are seeing your gonna end up with .


Are you stuck with that damm tent or can you stop using it & grow unrestricted in the same 64 sq ft the tent is taking up ?

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Amazing panhead?I bet if you were in flower for the normal 77 days...the yield would be even bigger?2688 grams,$10,080
3600w how many plants are in that 4x8 tray?

Went in and gave these girls some support. Just went and got some rope and created a net for them. The grow wasn't always under 4k watts.. Just the last three weeks of flowering.. They stared under 2k watts in flowering for the first two weeks then I put in the other two. Only been running 4k for the last three weeks.

Have fun watering them.......

I just wanna thank you all for an entertaining thread

Ah come on RM3 you gotta weigh in on all this, your a skilled and respected grower.

Thundercat said:

Ah come on RM3 you gotta weigh in on all this, your a skilled and respected grower.

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Well all the other experienced growers have already pointed out most of the flaws, I will say that while it's a tad costly the big cfl's do make the hps pics look better

and I did vote for less than 5 lbs

fandango said:

Amazing panhead?I bet if you were in flower for the normal 77 days...the yield would be even bigger?2688 grams,$10,080
3600w how many plants are in that 4x8 tray?

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Each 4 x 8 table had 50 plants , vegging , even for a week fucks the entire single cola sea of green system up & promotes side branching , something you never want .

Also another huge point of doing sea of green zero veg is to free up new grow space asap , without even a single day of veg a 32 sq ft area will have 6 harvests per 12 months , all the info needed to set my system up is contained within member Albfucts sticky posts in hydroponics , him & another member taught me the style .

panhead said:

Each 4 x 8 table had 50 plants , vegging , even for a week fucks the entire single cola sea of green system up & promotes side branching , something you never want .

Also another huge point of doing sea of green zero veg is to free up new grow space asap , without even a single day of veg a 32 sq ft area will have 6 harvests per 12 months , all the info needed to set my system up is contained within member Albfucts sticky posts in hydroponics , him & another member taught me the style .

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I'll Be Fucked was a fun grower, need more like him here

Thundercat said:

Have fun watering them.......

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Sadly enough ive got pics around here somewhere of one of my early attempts at SOG in soil ! Looks much the same , i had to rig a gravity fed watering system with a hose on a broom handle to water everything .

Albfuct & filthyfletch laughed at me so bad , complete with the lil green guy puking , i ripped it all down & spent a month settin up a proper grow , yeilds doubled over night .

Remember when ya got an lb dried & thought you were banging ? Lol .

RM3 said:

I'll Be Fucked was a fun grower, need more like him here

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Not only was he a fantastic grower he was smart about the science behind growing .

One thing about Al was he didn't suffer fools for a second , he put me on blast several times about my screw ups , i was lucky to have a mentor like him .

In truth i believe he's still here & allways has been , just dont want to be the teacher anymore .

panhead said:

Not only was he a fantastic grower he was smart about the science behind growing .

One thing about Al was he didn't suffer fools for a second , he put me on blast several times about my screw ups , i was lucky to have a mentor like him .

In truth i believe he's still here & allways has been , just dont want to be the teacher anymore .

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I'll admit,it does get old with all the constant forum hype and myths but I keep tryin LOL it's like facin down a tornado with a box fan