400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

Ok they have started to respond after the last and final pruning.
Still hoping for three ladies out of this batch. Should start 12/12 by the end of next week, depending on growth over the next 10 days or so.

The are all pruned to 8 mains.

1/30


1/30



1/28 Date drain hose installed



1/26 Date on final prune to 8 mains


Very please with the growth at this point, they are really beginning to take off.

1/26/15


1/30/15


That's it to date, Happy, Happy, Happy!

GR

I have a few mains that are outgrowing the stem mate, have not done a lot of training other than bending. Where should I look for info on this?
My clones from three of the plants are in the closet on 12/12 have been for a few days. Hope they show something by the time I put the plants in the cabinet on 12/12. It would be nice to make a bit more room in there.

great prune work. made urself some bushes

Two fems out of 5 beans, they will work great in the cabinet.

2/17/18 - 11th day of 12/12

Just a couple of shots from yesterday. Did some moving and tieing of branches to even the canopy's better.



GR

Update

Day 28 of 70 under 12/12

Well they say give the bad news first and then the good news will fix it all. Hummmmmmmm?

Ok, today was a flush day!
During the flush I was doing the clones in the solo cup starter hempys. I had just given them their second drinch and places them all on the drainage rack on my work table. "BAM" my table collapsed sending all the clones to the floor and some landed on their little heads, but all came out of their cups and spilt coco and perlite all over the place. I scooped up the clones and placed them back in their cups and tried to get as much coco and perlite that I could. Well now they are not Hempy solo cups, the are just a clones in a coco perlite mix but still in the cups. Will see how it goes, that shit went everywhere. The clones were two weeks old yesterday and I was very impressed with the amout and density of the root mass. Seven of the 8 clones made it, started directly in the solo hempy cups. I did the same thing when I sexed the plants got all 10 clones rooted in straight coco. I like the method but would prefer to have an aero cloner, but just can't justify the cost for the amount of plants I do.

Now for the reason I flushed today, the pH of my rinsate is fine, Going in it 5.8 to 5.9 coming out is 5.9 to 6.0. YEA! Think I got a handle on the coco. The problem and it is inherent with coco is the tendency to hold salts, and since the nute I use are chemical base the salts build up. My ppm going in is approx 850 with each batch of nutes i make up, Each time I check the ppm in the runoff it increases until I flush, I usually wait to flush at between 1300 to 1500 ppm. The salts have been increasing with each watering/nutes, and yesterday when I checked the rinsate it was 1480 so today was a flush day. Now is the time I'm glad I have the drain plug. I take untreated rain water, fill to the top, I have my drain hose tied up so the liquid stays in the bucket. That takes about 3/4 gallon, I let that sit in the bucket for about 10 to 15 minutes to help desolve the salts then I remove drain plug and let it drain rapidly and completely. I do this passing about two gallons thru the bucket. I then treat 5 gallon of aerated rain water with 25 ml silica and 25 ml Cal/Mag. I follow the same method as the untreated water, filling the buckets with the two gallons of treated water, the last fill is drained from the drain tube.
I will begin using nutes tomorrow. One thing I did notice this time is BW1 has tip burn on the very tip of the leaves and BW 5 has some minor clawing. I think it was really time to flush. I have been flushing about every 3 weeks, may make that two weeks and try to control the tip burn and clawing.

Other than that the ladies are doing just fine, I am so impressed with the way the maintain color. Both plants look great.
They are for sure Sativa dominate, trained for 4+ weeks, started flower at 2 inches above the ring or around 10 inches, they are now above 28 inches. I can imagine what they would look like had I not trained them Manifold (mainline) style.
BW 1

BW 1


BW 1

BW 5

BW 5 the canopy's are both equal height.
BW 5


Both of the ladies in the cabinet.


Well thats it for tonight, see you next week with another update.

GR

Here's how my plants from the mid January start are looking.

Tomorrow marks day 7 of 12/12.

Currently feeding at EC1.6.



J

they in coco mon?!? u water everyday? u feed everyday?!?
they look really good

glockdoc said:

they in coco mon?!? u water everyday? u feed everyday?!?
they look really good

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Watering approximately every 2 days when the surface is dry Feed with every watering

Come on Glock you know me.

Of course it's coco lol.

jondamon said:

Watering approximately every 2 days when the surface is dry Feed with every watering

Come on Glock you know me.

Of course it's coco lol.

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lol i know, its just that i just started using it and need your insight.. i like it so far because it saved a cut of mine

glockdoc said:

lol i know, its just that i just started using it and need your insight.. i like it so far because it saved a cut of mine

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PM me any issues you have and we will soon sort them out.


J

Here's my first grow under my new 400w MH/HPS dimmable system from ipower: Amnesia and Durga Mata II , about 3 wks in.

@indicat33 everything looks good!
noticed one thing that could help with batwings ;you want it in your cab like this [ i ], mine and yours is like this [ -- ] .
my reflector is to long to fit the correct way in my cab, so until i get a chop saw or something i have to run it the long way

glockdoc said:

@indicat33 everything looks good!
noticed one thing that could help with batwings ;you want it in your cab like this [ i ], mine and yours is like this [ -- ] .
my reflector is to long to fit the correct way in my cab, so until i get a chop saw or something i have to run it the long way

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Thanks bro, yeah I'm getting to know the do's and don'ts when using a 400-watter. I already bleached one plant (my 1-st grow under this Lamp), so I am still learning. Got a perpetual going, 12/12 (for now). Peace-

Day 35 of 12/12, 35 +/- days remaining under the 400W HPS.

Things are just moving right along, knock on wood but they are just doing great. So far it is such an easy strain to grow, and it's beginning to look fantastic. Buds are a little airy, but that is expected for a bit longer then they are said to fatten up considerably. Stretched more than I expected, but still ok for the cabinet.
Here are a few pics.
First three are BW5


Overall plant height from soil line is 30" with two cola at 31" and thats with them bent outward.




BW1


28" with two at 29"




Here are some clones, four of #1 & Three of #5, they were taken when I top the Mainlined plants for the 8 cola
I put them in the bigger container (13.5 gallon) that was set up Hempy with 70/10/10/10 coco/perlite/damn I can't remember the name of the other material/worm castings.
The material I can't remember was given to me by my hydro shop guy, full bag, said it's to use instead of perlite, I will look it up tomorrow. I mixed it half and half with course perlite.

It was cool to do and looks bitching, but once I watered it and tried to lift it, I said to myself, this shit ain't gonna work.
So today I sat about doing what I know how to do and set this up. My good ol' 2 gallon Lowe's buckets. I did set them up with the 70/20/10 mix, was able to salvage 95% from the big container. These will veg and get healthy till next week when I am going 12/12, that will give them about a five week start when the others come out of the cabinet. I will be flowering them under my SS400 during that period then move them into the HPS cabinet.


The two plants to the right of the Hempy's are the mother plants of 1 & 5, grown in standard 4 inch pots, straight coco. Going to transplant next week into two gallon smart pots, coco.
CYA later,

Update, week 8 day 56 of 12/12

All is well here at Casa GR8's! The ladies and their clones are all doing ok, have come out of their mutation period but the tips of BW 5 are stretching again. No light change, time change nute change, or love change, so unsure about it. I have contacted MNS with pics but have not heard back them yet.
On the two in the cabinet I have backed off the N, and am using .25 rate and tonights feeding will switch to .10 rate of N and at the same rate of P and K with next feeding and remain there till next week. I will then cut off all N, begin flush and use only pH'ed water until harvest on 4/20 @ 4:20 in the afternoon, after a bowl at 4:20 PM. And as usual on 4/20, I will wake up and do a bowl at 4:20 AM then go back to sleep.

Under the 400W HPS we have:

Black Widow 1


Black Widow 5, notice the spikes, they only started on 3/26 and have grown about three inches since then. I am thinking it's got to be related to the pH issues I had a few weeks ago. This is the thin cola plant but has begun to fatten up, I expect gr8 things over the next few weeks.
I have added two 18" T8 uvb's to the cabinet. Manually moving this light around the cabinet every two hour. I have the fixture about 12" from the plants.
I used them for my past LED grows and liked the results. I grew three grows using the uvb and two grows without the uvb, same strain on two of the grows one with the uvb and one without. Saw more trichs on the uvb plant and I believe it was just a bit better IMHO. I know it caused no harm so going to use it here.




Under the CLW SS400 LED in the bloom mode.
(4) BW 1's and (3) BW 5's



The Mothers of the above plants are under the T5's.
As of right now the one on the left (BW1) will be the keeper(?) .
That is based on growth rate, size and density of the cola. Final decision will be made after I cure and take some buds to the panel for a taste test. It will be a blind test because they are all blind.



Let's see how they do this next week!

GR

Got my girls in their 8 week of veg. Just about to switch them over this week.
Got my 400w system second hand off a friend and seeds from a random bag.
Seems like one split on its own!!! Two colas!! Haha
But they seem to be doing pretty good.
Using
-Fox farm ocean soil
-gen. Hydro nutes
-5gal gro pro fabric pots

Update: MNS Black Widow

Week 9, 63 days of 12/12

Nutes have been cut off to both plants, now pH'ed water only using GH CaliMagic which is a 1-0-0 @ 3ml and one tsp of Epsom per gallon. I am out of rain water but expecting heavy rains starting tonight, that should fill my 300 gallons of containers.
As I stated prior, I will harvest BW1 on 4/20 but I am going to let BW5 go for another week or so. BW1 has plumped up nicely and lovely trichs, according to MSN this is the week the really put it on. BW5 is airy but beginning to thicken. They are both lovely plants, less my pH fuck up. Cola are all around 16" +/- and the fragrance is getting very nice.

Black Widow 1


Black Widow 5


In one of my last post, I stated I have been using two 18" T8 uvb's on BW1 for about the past 8 + days and will use it through harvest. Keeping it about 15 to 18 inches above the plant. BW5 has been getting some of that light but will be put under it after I harvest BW1. This is just complementary to the 400W HPS in the cabinet.

GR

Update: MNS Black Widow Clones

Day 24 of 12/12

These 7 ladies under the LED, going into the 400W HPS cabinet in about two weeks. They are doing very well and as I expected BW1 is putting on a lot of buds and BW5 has just begun, same as there mothers. I really like the mix ratio I am using with this grow, 75/10/10/5, coco/perlite/growstones/worm castings. Even though the roots are thick in the reservoir I am only having to water ever 2nd or 3rd day, beats the hell out of every day.


The grow space is 36"x36"x74", the canopy is 24 inches tall from the "soil" line and has filled the grow area.


The bud sites are numerous and getting some size on them.


I do have a question to you SOG guys, how much do you prune undergrowth? As full as the canopy is and seeing the amount of buds under the canopy, I am concerned about a shit load of popcorn. This is not a true SOG as I have done some super cropping due to the fact that when I move them to my cabinet I will have restricted height. Should I not worry about the under growth or should I prune it out? At day 24 I don't want to wait much longer if I am going to remove anything. Any help would be GR8. Sorry that was two questions,

Peace out,

GR

Day 70 of 12/12

Well, here we are near the end of this grow.

I will be harvesting BW1 on Monday 4/20 and BW2 a week or so later. Checked trichs, some lightly cloudy and a few with just a tiny dot of amber in the center of a few trichs. BW2 is still filling in and has mostly clear trichs.
I have started pre harvest trim, removed the fan leaves and any dead or dying leaves, will trim the rest on harvest day, with final trim after dried.

Fan leaves removed 4 days prior to harvest


These cola are all 12+"


"Sticky Fingers" Stones, came on my Jango station while I was pruning.


BW5, removed the dead and dying leaves, fans will be removed at some point next week. Nice buds but still a bit airy.


BW5


BW5 is a sativa strong pheno, hope the high is very sativa.

Will take some pics during the harvest of Black Widow 1 @ 4:20PM on 4/20/15. Lol just love it.

GR

4/20/15, day 74 for Black Widow 1 and chop day @ 4:20 PM.

BW5 has the cabinet to itself for a short period of time then, she gets chopped and the clones get to move to the cabinet, and they are ready for that.
I started my trim a few days prior to harvest day. Dead or dying leaves first, select fan leaves when I open the cabinet to move the uvb light I will remove a few leaves at a time, then today I do about a 80% trim. I will do full trim prior to jarring.

@4:20PM I started the chop.


One bud prior to trim


After trim


Bud after trim


Hung in closet to start the drying process. Usually I cut the individual stems but this time I cut the whole plant at the base of the trunk and going to dry this way.


And what a great day it has been.


Peace out,

GR