40 year old nervous virgin looking for shroom advice...

I've come to the conclusion that I'm ready for shrooms. I have read the research and I think this might just save my life (I have some acquired mental illness because life isn't always kind). So having more money than ability (and zero knowledge of how to go about buying them from someone) I bought a "ultimate shroom kit" and ordered 3 syringes from an overpriced site (best spores) and inoculated the 12 jars (1 syringe per 4 jars). Tomorrow is 3 weeks later, and I'm going to be ready to birth them very soon.
Strains: Thai Tanic - 4 jars
Florida White-4 jars
Quezon (Philippines)-2 jars (must have been a crappy spore syringe, 2 jars didn't inoculate and these two are slower than the others).
My concern is my first ever trip. I'm looking for mental healing. Please, any information you think I should know, advice, whatever... that you think I would benefit from would be appreciated.
My plan is to do a 30 grams of fresh shrooms finely chopped and soaked in lemon juice for a couple of hours and then drink the slush.
Does anyone have experience with these strains? Is there a big difference between strains? I'm I on the right track here?
Again, I like to party as much as the next guy, but the goal here is to start to reverse moral injury. Thank you.

@HeatlessBBQ would have some input here I believe. I'm a rec user and don't really have a lot of knowledge other than I like to trip once in a while.

As far as the shrooms go ....can't help ya there.....but the first part of your thread title calls for a hooker ....GL

Hooker may know about shrooms as well ...win/win...GL

Indacouch said:

As far as the shrooms go ....can't help ya there.....but the first part of your thread title calls for a hooker ....GL

Hooker may know about shrooms as well ...win/win...GL

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LMAO! Brother, that was stage one. Been there, done that. But honestly, these days the nastiest (best?) ladies are free if you ask nice....

Rooster802 said:

LMAO! Brother, that was stage one. Been there, done that. But honestly, these days the nastiest (best?) ladies are free if you ask nice....

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Never ((free)) I've been with my wife 15 years .....have two young boys ....it's costed me all my lunch money


So a drug addicted hooker wasn't what you were lookin for ....does sound fun though.....just sayin


On a serious note-
GL to you .....there's actually lots of shroom info/threads on here.

Cubensis are Cubensis in psychoactive effects, IMo.
Unless You have Penis Envy Cubensis... Those things are potent AS FUCK !!!!!!

However, certain strains of psilocybin mushrooms DO grow differently.
Just like cannabis has different flowering times.

Mycelium growth can vary between strains.
And fruiting body sizes can vary as well.

If You are growing strains outside the cubensis strains, things can get quite difficult and more advanced when it comes to mushroom cultivation. I have successfully grown monotubs AND cyanecens.

I hope I have been of help...

Orange juice, eat them as soon as possible and have a baby sitter.

As long as you know what you are seeing is just in your mind you will be fine.

I've had good an bad experiences, some genetics I'll never try again.

Enjoy!

They helped me with anxiety!

No pharmaceuticals required!

Dude shrooms can fuck you right up. Sometimes it's heaven but sometimes it's hell, at least in my case. I had maybe 3 good trips and probably about 5 where I felt completely unable to return to reality and was quite frightened. I would go very light on the first try. I don't know what 30 grams fresh would work out to when dry but it sounds like a lot. I also wouldn't consider it a party drug, because it's way too intense for that. Shrooms sound like lighthearted fun but it's a serious hallucinogen and if you overdo it you could wind up in a mental hospital for a while. BTW, if you do go off the rails don't bother calling 911 cuz ain't a damn thing they can do for you and they'll probably look like Aztec priests or something. Stay inside and ride it out. After about 5 hours it will abruptly end, but right before that you'll be at your most fucked up point. And above all, do NOT take your clothes off and go outside walking around like you'll probably want to. It's a really bad idea. Cops will tackle yo naked ass.

BobCajun said:

Dude shrooms can fuck you right up. Sometimes it's heaven but sometimes it's hell, at least in my case. I had maybe 3 good trips and probably about 5 where I felt completely unable to return to reality and was quite frightened. I would go very light on the first try. I don't know what 30 grams fresh would work out to when dry but it sounds like a lot. I also wouldn't consider it a party drug, because it's way too intense for that. Shrooms sound like lighthearted fun but it's a serious hallucinogen and if you overdo it you could wind up in a mental hospital for a while. BTW, if you do go off the rails don't bother calling 911 cuz ain't a damn thing they can do for you and they'll probably look like Aztec priests or something. Stay inside and ride it out. After about 5 hours it will abruptly end, but right before that you'll be at your most fucked up point. And above all, do NOT take your clothes off and go outside walking around like you'll probably want to. It's a really bad idea. Cops will tackle yo naked ass.

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Nice, I like the advice. I'm not taking as a party drug... I actually read medical news and shit and per Johns Hopkins and other of the best medical researchers in the world are saying that magic mushrooms are the answer to mental pain. The recommended medical dose is 3.5 grams. Dry. I was wanting to do fresh. And my understanding is 10 grams wet = 1 gram dry. I was going to go 30 because I've never had a psychedelic before (I started using cannabis like 3 years ago, and I've never had so much as a parking ticket. I'm like a law abiding citizen and shit, or at least I was until years of intensive therapy and handfuls of VA candy only made me physically sick in addition to mental pain). DMT, Ketamine, LSD, etc all have their place and are all MEDICINE... shocker right? Except some of you on here already knew that. I got to much anger and resentment that I need to let go of...

HeatlessBBQ said:

Cubensis are Cubensis in psychoactive effects, IMo.
Unless You have Penis Envy Cubensis... Those things are potent AS FUCK !!!!!!

However, certain strains of psilocybin mushrooms DO grow differently.
Just like cannabis has different flowering times.

Mycelium growth can vary between strains.
And fruiting body sizes can vary as well.

If You are growing strains outside the cubensis strains, things can get quite difficult and more advanced when it comes to mushroom cultivation. I have successfully grown monotubs AND cyanecens.

I hope I have been of help...

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Heatless, thanks for the info. So I should be ok with any of those strains then I imagine as they are cubensis. Does 30 grams fresh sound like an appropriate first trip? I am nervous because when you read the reaction the patients have had in the medical trials... well that shit is life changing. And anyone who doesn't take a minute for self reflection before they launch themselves into a life changing journey is probably a little more free spirited than I am....

Rooster802 said:

Nice, I like the advice. I'm not taking as a party drug... I actually read medical news and shit and per Johns Hopkins and other of the best medical researchers in the world are saying that magic mushrooms are the answer to mental pain. The recommended medical dose is 3.5 grams. Dry. I was wanting to do fresh. And my understanding is 10 grams wet = 1 gram dry. I was going to go 30 because I've never had a psychedelic before (I started using cannabis like 3 years ago, and I've never had so much as a parking ticket. I'm like a law abiding citizen and shit, or at least I was until years of intensive therapy and handfuls of VA candy only made me physically sick in addition to mental pain). DMT, Ketamine, LSD, etc all have their place and are all MEDICINE... shocker right? Except some of you on here already knew that. I got to much anger and resentment that I need to let go of...

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first of all you should know that psychedelics aren't nearly as innocent as you think they are they can be extremely dangerous and trigger horrible mental illness and most likely hppd when used excessively or heavy doses, second of all don't rely on 10grams wet = 1 gram dry thats a really dangerous thing to rely on, and you can easily buy whatever drugs you want on the darknet, start with one gram of shrooms dried

Enigma said:

Orange juice, eat them as soon as possible and have a baby sitter.

As long as you know what you are seeing is just in your mind you will be fine.

I've had good an bad experiences, some genetics I'll never try again.

Enjoy!

They helped me with anxiety!

No pharmaceuticals required!

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Rooster802 said:

Heatless, thanks for the info. So I should be ok with any of those strains then I imagine as they are cubensis. Does 30 grams fresh sound like an appropriate first trip? I am nervous because when you read the reaction the patients have had in the medical trials... well that shit is life changing. And anyone who doesn't take a minute for self reflection before they launch themselves into a life changing journey is probably a little more free spirited than I am....

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Honestly, if You are nervous... I would take it slow.

I would start out with 10 grams wet... then work my way up to 30 grams wet.
I rather dry them out but I understand if You want to be at one with the fruits.

What sort of trip are you looking for? Do you want to giggle like a little girl or do you want to see the event horizon?
The first time I shroomed, I was 15, 1 gram dry, it was 1985, I was visiting a bro in North County San Diego. We broke into a poinsettia greenhouse and I saw Aztec cartoons dancing the walls. This later convinced me that I was in touch with teonanacatl.
I later grew mushrooms and would perform epic dosages with terence mckenna's blessing. 7 gram minimum for a good shamanic experience. You will not merely trip, but will encounter lower and higher beings and before you know it you'll be back to this reality.

HeatlessBBQ said:

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Pretty much.

I've never had a problem with them, good trip or bad.

My girlfriend, at the time, and I had a wonderland experience at the same time. We couldn't explain why we were seeing the same thing at the same time..

I've always found tryping in the dark will highlight visuals and tryping in public highlights the colours.

I think you're expecting too much from psychedelics, like that they'll be a remedy for "mental pain". Never had such an effect on me. Did scare the hell out of me though, so if you like that sort of thing. Besides 3 grams is a lot, at least of Liberty Bells, the only shrooms I ever used. Maybe Cubensis and others are weaker. I suggest trying 1 gram first. Then after you puke and see that it's actually not helping you in any way you'll probably leave it at that. The nausea alone is enough to give you a good reason to avoid shrooms. However, it's your life and if you feel you need to try it then that's your choice. Probably nobody would be able to talk you out of it anyway. Maybe it'll help you somehow though, it's conceivable, I think it's mainly good for depression, probably because it effects serotonin, which is involved in depression.

I grind up my dried shrooms and put them in gel caps for consumption....no nausea whatsoever. With cubensis, I would start with 2 grams. I've been growing them for many years and they can help break addictions, recover from childhood trauma, and just make you feel better about life, but you must approach them with the proper attitude. Definitely don't make some nasty slurry out of them though...totally unnecessary and ....gross!

cindysid said:

I grind up my dried shrooms and put them in gel caps for consumption....no nausea whatsoever. With cubensis, I would start with 2 grams. I've been growing them for many years and they can help break addictions, recover from childhood trauma, and just make you feel better about life, but you must approach them with the proper attitude. Definitely don't make some nasty slurry out of them though...totally unnecessary and ....gross!

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You must have a stomach of steel then because obviously gel caps dissolve in your stomach and it's not the taste that makes you puke, it's the psilocybin. Though the taste alone could certainly gag a maggot. Pure psilocybin will make you puke just like shrooms. In human experiments they usually would administer an antinauseant with the psilocybin. Some people get less sick than others though, apparently.

BobCajun said:

You must have a stomach of steel then because obviously gel caps dissolve in your stomach and it's not the taste that makes you puke, it's the psilocybin. Though the taste alone could certainly gag a maggot. Pure psilocybin will make you puke just like shrooms. In human experiments they usually would administer an antinauseant with the psilocybin. Some people get less sick than others though, apparently.

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I get sick if I eat them or drink a tea. I share these a lot and no one has ever become nauseated. Maybe we all have cast iron stomachs!

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You must have a stomach of steel then because obviously gel caps dissolve in your stomach and it's not the taste that makes you puke, it's the psilocybin. Though the taste alone could certainly gag a maggot. Pure psilocybin will make you puke just like shrooms. In human experiments they usually would administer an antinauseant with the psilocybin. Some people get less sick than others though, apparently.

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I've seen a lot of people puke on shrooms. Only one time has it messed with my stomach, and I didn't puke.