4 strains, all quirky/RED stems

My heaviest and largest plant along with this *ruffling~ they can't seem to hold themselves up! New growth has nice angles though small!
 

justugh

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Ahh I love learning! I will find Roots Organics ratio today and see if I can find some str8 cal. Would str8 calmag without nitrogen still be more promising than not? I'll have updates with more pics. And some sidebysides as each plant seems to take its own swing with how to react lol. Thanks so much guys!
most calmag has nothing in it but that (no NPK ) the only down side of it is most acidic so if the ph was right before u added 2 mls it is now off by aleast 1 point


GH cal mag has nothing it ....that is the one that comes in the go box

as for the elemental that is just 1 tablespoon per gallon of soil ........u can add it to a plant already (just take a gallon jug and fill with warm water add the stuff and shake it for like 10 mins until u see most of it desolve then add a few ice cubes to the water to top it off and cool it down .......keep shaking then when it is around 65 70 u can add it to the soil
 
So... Tested my water that I had initially fed with. 700~ ppm and its through a water softener, so what's left is sodium? Put a half gallon into each plant with water w/calmag phd to 6.6. Waiting to see if anything lifts up... I have what a week left in veg? Only about 4 inches tall -.- are these worth fighting for? Ma babaysss :oops:
 

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justugh

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So... Tested my water that I had initially fed with. 700~ ppm and its through a water softener, so what's left is sodium? Put a half gallon into each plant with water w/calmag phd to 6.6. Waiting to see if anything lifts up... I have what a week left in veg? Only about 4 inches tall -.- are these worth fighting for? Ma babaysss :oops:
your time table has been altered by all this

the time table u get from the sites are for a prefect run plant .........your plant is not stretching or any pre flowering so keep the grow going
 

justugh

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buddy

get a beer or good bottle .....roll some joints or get a bong/blunt ........chill out watch some kung fu movies ......go zen and relax u will see the results in 2/3 days and go from there
 

Semper.Fi

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Does the water softener worry you like it does me justugh?
700ppm before anythig added???? NOT good no?? imho

buddy

get a beer or good bottle .....roll some joints or get a bong/blunt ........chill out watch some kung fu movies ......go zen and relax u will see the results in 2/3 days and go from there


Do you have any other sources for water that doesn't get passed through sodium to soften it?

So... Tested my water that I had initially fed with. 700~ ppm and its through a water softener, so what's left is sodium? Put a half gallon into each plant with water w/calmag phd to 6.6. Waiting to see if anything lifts up... I have what a week left in veg? Only about 4 inches tall -.- are these worth fighting for? Ma babaysss :oops:
Always worth fighting for in early veg ;)




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justugh

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Does the water softener worry you like it does me justugh?
700ppm before anythig added???? NOT good no?? imho





Do you have any other sources for water that doesn't get passed through sodium to soften it?



Always worth fighting for in early veg ;)




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that hose filter i showed him should do the trick it is carbon based .........the only other choice is a 5 stage filter like zero water ....then comes a RO filter
 

Semper.Fi

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Ahhh now, apologies, I missed your suggestion of the hose filter . . . . . I'll hunt that link down, nice one.

that hose filter i showed him should do the trick it is carbon based .........the only other choice is a 5 stage filter like zero water ....then comes a RO filter

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justugh

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Ahhh now, apologies, I missed your suggestion of the hose filter . . . . . I'll hunt that link down, nice one.




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np
here u go
http://www.amazon.com/Garden-Hose-Filter-Chloramines-Pesticides/dp/B007I6MN72/

i used it in my hydro exps to get the water as clean as i could ........i am ppm 60 ph 5.9 well water (they are drilling multi new wells around us messing with it ) silt now and then

if he has 700 ppm before i be scared to swim or eat the fish from the local area ........i used the zero water filter (it has active carbon makes mellower for moonshine) .......but that would work for him very well if he feels the hose filter does not do the job

http://www.amazon.com/ZeroWater-ZD-018-23-Cup-Dispenser-Filtration/dp/B003QXM3U8
the zero water .........rem the old wise tail if u pour cheap drink tho the right filter it gets better (it is true the active carbon adds a smoothness less holy shit my throat is on fire) .....this is one of those filters but their whole marketing is a 0 ppm reading ....hence zero water
 
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matto70799

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Right but if you take your water to 0ppm you have also removed all of the magnesium and calcium buffering the water. Be sure to add cal mag back. You want water about 300-400ppm out of the tap or filter. You can assume this is mostly mag and cal as they are the major ions found in ALL water. This is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. The more alkaline ions in your water the more buffering capacity and the less you have to add (less $). Pick up a copy of Ed Rosenthal's grow book. It's all in there.
I have well water. It then goes through a softener as most well water in the north east US does. Takes my tap water to about 300ppm. I'm a scientist so I've measured my calcium and magnesium and am about at the low to normal mark. My issue is I have almost no iron in my water so I have to add chelated iron.
It's always something.
 

Semper.Fi

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Though the calcium in tap water is far to big in molecule to be assimilated right ???

Right but if you take your water to 0ppm you have also removed all of the magnesium and calcium buffering the water. Be sure to add cal mag back. You want water about 300-400ppm out of the tap or filter. You can assume this is mostly mag and cal as they are the major ions found in ALL water. This is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. The more alkaline ions in your water the more buffering capacity and the less you have to add (less $). Pick up a copy of Ed Rosenthal's grow book. It's all in there.
I have well water. It then goes through a softener as most well water in the north east US does. Takes my tap water to about 300ppm. I'm a scientist so I've measured my calcium and magnesium and am about at the low to normal mark. My issue is I have almost no iron in my water so I have to add chelated iron.
It's always something.

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matto70799

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Though the calcium in tap water is far to big in molecule to be assimilated right ???




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Ok what I think you are saying is the calcium in tap water is not the right type of molecule for the plant to absorb. You are partially correct. Typically the calcium found in tap water is in the carbonate form (calcium carbonate - CaCO3). This type of calcium is like garden lime (dolomite lime), or oyster shells. It is not for quick absorbtion but plants do absorb it as it is broken down by acids in the soil or hydro medium. If you need quick absorbing calcium you want calcium nitrate or calcium acetate or something water soluble like that. But overall the take home message is the calcium carbonate is utilized by plants. It also is great for buffering your water so it doesn't undergo large pH swings as you add different nutrient and fresh plain water.
Hope this helps.
 

Semper.Fi

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ahhhh humma humma . . . . . .I love new data!!! :hump:

Thanks a billion . . . . yr a $ ;)


Ok what I think you are saying is the calcium in tap water is not the right type of molecule for the plant to absorb. You are partially correct. Typically the calcium found in tap water is in the carbonate form (calcium carbonate - CaCO3). This type of calcium is like garden lime (dolomite lime), or oyster shells. It is not for quick absorbtion but plants do absorb it as it is broken down by acids in the soil or hydro medium. If you need quick absorbing calcium you want calcium nitrate or calcium acetate or something water soluble like that. But overall the take home message is the calcium carbonate is utilized by plants. It also is great for buffering your water so it doesn't undergo large pH swings as you add different nutrient and fresh plain water.
Hope this helps.


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Update-- week 3 day 1. Everyone still quirky and everyone super short. Weirdness galore. Here's the biggest northern lights, speed bud, blueberry, and lime; in that order. I'm seeing the claw just about everywhere and new growth yellowing. Soil has seemed rather moist and havent fed them in 5 days now. To dry up the stalks. Seeing stuck perspiration underneath new growth which is stuck behind . some tips hardening and dying off. Any ideas to save them?
 

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Semper.Fi

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cant help in LED light man!!!

Diagnosis come from leaf color . . . . .everything is, well, purpley pink . . . . .


Use a white light please . . . .
 

justugh

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even i can not tell .........looks like u have a cob light going

u need to use a wite light like a CFL on a clip on light ......kill the LEDs turn that on take the pics turn LED back on
 
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