4 5x5 tents

jeff wright

jeff wright

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There's a very certain way I'm trying to do things here. I understand it may not make sense to everybody. But to me it does. Some people may feel safe doing something's, but I personally like to air on the side of caution. I have horrible back problems, so another benefit of 4 tents is I could just change light schedule. Instead of moving plants from place to place. That way I could stagger my harvest without as much work. Also the way I would like to do but would consume how much energy is used at a consistent basis. There is many benefits to what I am trying to do as compared to just a dual room set up. Now I completely understand where all of you are coming from with what you are saying. However it was not just the way I am going about things. So what I need from the community here is just advice on how to make my propose set up run the most efficient
 
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JackSkell

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jeff wright said:
There's a very certain way I'm trying to do things here. I understand it may not make sense to everybody. But to me it does. Some people may feel safe doing something's, but I personally like to air on the side of caution. I have horrible back problems, so another benefit of 4 tents is I could just change light schedule. Instead of moving plants from place to place. That way I could stagger my harvest without as much work. Also the way I would like to do but would consume how much energy is used at a consistent basis. There is many benefits to what I am trying to do as compared to just a dual room set up. Now I completely understand where all of you are coming from with what you are saying. However it was not just the way I am going about things. So what I need from the community here is just advice on how to make my propose set up run the most efficient
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And the community has tried to explain that 4 tents will not be as efficient as two but you dont like that answer so you just keep casting that rod until you hook the retard fish youre looking for, for the record everyone on this site airs on the side of caution, thats why we are able to post stuff here because were not in jail- so that excuse is invalid, i have back problems too, hell alot of us got our back problems because of this hobby, but lifting 1 bucket at a time and moving it not even 6 feet away isnt gonna kill any of us- another invalid excuse. If there is so many beneifts to what you wanna do and you understand it so well then why do you need anyones advice? Just trying to get someone to validate your ideas?
 
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jeff wright

jeff wright

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JackSkell said:
And the community has tried to explain that 4 tents will not be as efficient as two but you dont like that answer so you just keep casting that rod until you hook the retard fish youre looking for, for the record eceeyone on this site airs on the side of caution, thats why we are able to post stuff here because were not in jail- so that excuse is invalid, i have back problems too, hell alot of ua fotour back problems because of this hobby, but lifting 1 bucket at a time and moving it not even 6 feet away isnt gonna kill any of us- another invalid excuse. If thsre is so many beneifts tobwhat you wanna do and you understand it so well then why do you need anyones advice? Just trying to get someone to validate your ideas?
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I'm not just looking for someone to validate my Ideas. And the only reason you were saying it's not As effective or efficient is due to the cost of supplies. I have the supplies. So I'm not worried about that. And once again I'm not you your pain is much different than mine probably or maybe it's not I don't know. Also having all lights running at one time I would be using much more electricity on a consistent basis then as if I stagger the light schedule. I'm trying to bait the personWho actually has the knowledge to help me with my proposal. You have a very close minded view. If you go back and read through my statements I make some very valid points. What I need from this community is someone to help me pinpoint exactly what my schedules need to be. I also proposed a three tent set up as obviously I have no concern about running the 1200 W with 1000 W from the flower room at a consistent point in time. I really don't think you're understanding the point I'm trying to get at. And I think it's frustrating you by the way your last response was worded. If you don't have the time to think things through and help me based on the things I'm telling youabout my set up then you are free to leave the thread because I'm sure eventually someone here will have useful knowledge for me. I'll just put it this simply at no given point in time would I like to run over 2500 W in light and separating tents makes that possible
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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jeff wright said:
I'm not just looking for someone to validate my Ideas. And the only reason you were saying it's not As effective or efficient is due to the cost of supplies. I have the supplies. So I'm not worried about that. And once again I'm not you your pain is much different than mine probably or maybe it's not I don't know. Also having all lights running at one time I would be using much more electricity on a consistent basis then as if I stagger the light schedule. I'm trying to bait the personWho actually has the knowledge to help me with my proposal. You have a very close minded view. If you go back and read through my statements I make some very valid points. What I need from this community is someone to help me pinpoint exactly what my schedules need to be. I also proposed a three tent set up as obviously I have no concern about running the 1200 W with 1000 W from the flower room at a consistent point in time. I really don't think you're understanding the point I'm trying to get at. And I think it's frustrating you by the way your last response was worded. If you don't have the time to think things through and help me based on the things I'm telling youabout my set up then you are free to leave the thread because I'm sure eventually someone here will have useful knowledge for me. I'll just put it this simply at no given point in time would I like to run over 2500 W in light and separating tents makes that possible
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And yes actually a little bit of someone validating my ideas would help just so I know what I'm saying is the most efficient way to run my proposed set up not go with a completely different set up than I originally intended.
 
stoned-monkey

stoned-monkey

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IF running 4 tents is what youre set on then go for it.
Pro...you can divide your power usage better, isolate bugs, hermies, etc. easier, manage different grow styles easier.
Cons... more work, more equipment, more things to fail, less space effeicent, less energy effeicent.

However it can work fine but i would do one veg/clone/mom tent maybe use shelves with attached lighting to give more grow space and three flowers. Every 4-5 weeks harvest and refill the ready flower room, or use for the drying then refill.

But the set up, space, and timing isnt the same for everyone or every style of grow. I seen wild set ups and simple all produce. It is the grower and their experince that makes it work. Whats your level of experince? Does the pros out weigh the cons for you?
 
fn217

fn217

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stoned-monkey said:
IF running 4 tents is what youre set on then go for it.
Pro...you can divide your power usage better, isolate bugs, hermies, etc. easier, manage different grow styles easier.
Cons... more work, more equipment, more things to fail, less space effeicent, less energy effeicent.

However it can work fine but i would do one veg/clone/mom tent maybe use shelves with attached lighting to give more grow space and three flowers. Every 4-5 weeks harvest and refill the ready flower room, or use for the drying then refill.

But the set up, space, and timing isnt the same for everyone or every style of grow. I seen wild set ups and simple all produce. It is the grower and their experince that makes it work. Whats your level of experince? Does the pros out weigh the cons for you?
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Honestly the best advice in the thread so far. I agree with all the pro's and con's. It sounds like in your situation, running everything on two cycles is not possible. Therefor, I think you should decide if these pro's and con's work for you... and if they do, go for it.
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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stoned-monkey said:
IF running 4 tents is what youre set on then go for it.
Pro...you can divide your power usage better, isolate bugs, hermies, etc. easier, manage different grow styles easier.
Cons... more work, more equipment, more things to fail, less space effeicent, less energy effeicent.

However it can work fine but i would do one veg/clone/mom tent maybe use shelves with attached lighting to give more grow space and three flowers. Every 4-5 weeks harvest and refill the ready flower room, or use for the drying then refill.

But the set up, space, and timing isnt the same for everyone or every style of grow. I seen wild set ups and simple all produce. It is the grower and their experince that makes it work. Whats your level of experince? Does the pros out weigh the cons for you?
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The pros definitely outweigh the cons for me. This is exactly the type of advice I was looking for. The type of advice that I can build more knowledge off of and ask questions on. As far as cooling do you think I would be better off running florescence for the veg? Will it affect my results even if I am flowering with HPS. If it will not affect my results how much wattage of fluorescent lighting should I use to match 1000 W or a 600 W MH? As far as your question to experience I'm not a novice but at the same time by no means am I a professional and by no means do I know everything which is why I referred to the site for advice and knowledge from people who have credible things to Input. I have quite a few grows under my belt however 75% with auto flowers. I'm just getting my cloning schedule and technique down enough to do a consistent run with photos. However I'm looking to increase size in my room and number of tents to increase how much I harvest annually
 
fn217

fn217

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jeff wright said:
The pros definitely outweigh the cons for me. This is exactly the type of advice I was looking for. The type of advice that I can build more knowledge off of and ask questions on. As far as cooling do you think I would be better off running florescence for the veg? Will it affect my results even if I am flowering with HPS. If it will not affect my results how much wattage of fluorescent lighting should I use to match 1000 W or a 600 W MH?
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Don't bother with the fluorescents. You want explosive growth so that you can have a very quick and rapid veg before flip. I recommend a Horticultural Lighting Group (HLG) fixture for sure. Very strong light intensity, no heat production.
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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fn217 said:
Don't bother with the fluorescents. You want explosive growth so that you can have a very quick and rapid veg before flip. I recommend a Horticultural Lighting Group (HLG) fixture for sure. Very strong light intensity, no heat production.
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Is that a specific air cooled hood?
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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coreywebster said:
No its an LED using Samsung 561c diodes.
Although " no heat production" is a false statement.
They are super efficient broad spectrum LEDs, more light per watt of power used.

https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/
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I was just looking into them a little... are they only for veg? It doesn't really say it just says replaces 1000w mh. Which leads me to believe it's only a veg light. Also what are life spans on those with such a hefty cost? I really like using hps&mh due to bulbs being easily accessible and changeable
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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jeff wright said:
I was just looking into them a little... are they only for veg? It doesn't really say it just says replaces 1000w mh. Which leads me to believe it's only a veg light. Also what are life spans on those with such a hefty cost? I really like using hps&mh due to bulbs being easily accessible and changeable
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Life span should be decades.
They are for flowering and veg. For strictly veg you would choose 4kelvin or 5k boards, for both flower and veg 3k-4k. for flower only 3k.
Personally I only flower with them in 3k. I veg with 315cmh in summer and 600 MH in winter.
They are good due to the amount of light you get for the power used. So you can swap say a 600 HPS for 600w of QBs and get much more light or drop to lower wattage if heat is an issue and still have the same light levels.

They are not cheap, but for me running a perpetual set up it was a good upgrade, I'm sure most of the guys using them would say the same, although most of the guys using HID lighting might not agree.. :roll:

If you were thinking about using them the website shows the area covered for flowering and for veg.
Anyhow, I'm not here to do the sales pitch, I love em, but not everyone wants to shell out that sort of cash. Especially when your just getting started and MH are cheap.
I do see however from further reading your thread that electricity usage is an issue so perhaps do further research into them. Plenty of threads on Quantum Boards on here to check out. :bigjoint:
 
stoned-monkey

stoned-monkey

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Agree led (not blurple) will provide great light with less heat and power draw. I wouldnt forget flourescets all together. They have there place, i love em for moms, clones/cuts, and seedlings. Plus supplemental lighting like uv for example.
What is your grow style? I ask cause if youre running a sog where you pretty much flip to 12/12 right after the clone roots you dont need high watt lights for their brief veg.
But if money is plentiful led, COBs or quantum boards, is where the future is.
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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I definitely don't do sog. I keep plant count under 24 at all times due to state laws jumping up sentencing guidelines after that. For 4 tents I planned 6 plants per tent. Right now I have 8 "KKC" plants under 2000 watts accompanied by 6 purple diesel plants that are a bit younger
 
jeff wright

jeff wright

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what are thoughts on the spectrum king? can the sk602gh really flower a 8x8 room with just one light. I find that very hard to belive but if so im sold
 
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