31 states allow rapist to sue for custody/visitation

ginjawarrior said:

its statutory rape because a 14 yearold cannot give consent to a 20 yearold however "willing" you think she was

this whole its not "rape" "rape" spiel isnt very beffiting

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the charge of statutory rape is ONLY used when the only way the act can be rape is under the statute, not by means of force coercion or the check bouncing.

unlike whoopi goldberg i do not consider roman polanski's bottomless Roofie-colada glass and quaalude supper club buffet to be "Not RAPE rape" but speaking from experience, a 14 year old hoochie may not be "legally" able to give consent but she can sure do a fair impression of it.

when i was 19 i wound up in the sack with a chick i met at the iommunity college bookstore. she had a rack like WHOA and she worked me like a PBR champion. i later discovered in my post-coital smoking that she didnt smoke cuz she didnt want her parents to smell it on her clothes.... alarm bells started ringing and i found out theis hot college chick who was at least 3 years older than me, for sure... was 15. fi i had been nabbed i would be a RRRRRRRRAPER too, statutorily. even though she was the sexual aggressor and neither of us was drunk, but i was simply expected to know her age and push her off my cock shouting NO MEANS NO! yeah... not so much. for years after that i carded a bitch before i introduced her to my main accomplice.

whoopi is right, theres rape in the eyes of the law, and RAPE. whoopi just has it twisted. 30 year old movie producers dont bang 13 year olds while jack nicholson takes pictures and jacks off in the corner, but sometimes dudes under 20 will find themselves droppin their pants for any skirt that says those three magic words, "Sure, why not?". and sometimes the law says thats wrong. even if she doesnt want to press charges, even if she had a good time, and even if they wind up gettin married a few years later.

As a father
I do not give you permission to do anything with my daughter until she is 18 and hopefully out of the house
You would be better off arrested if you disobey me on this, becuase I will make you bite the curb

ChesusRice said:

As a father
I do not give you permission to do anything with my daughter until she is 18 and hopefully out of the house
You would be better off arrested if you disobey me on this, becuase I will make you bite the curb

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How are you going to live in 31 states? Come on. Be real. With an alligator?

ChesusRice said:

As a father
I do not give you permission to do anything with my daughter until she is 18 and hopefully out of the house
You would be better off arrested if you disobey me on this, becuase I will make you bite the curb

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as a horndawg, i reserve the right to bang bitches. if they are over 18, and wanna get rode like a fresh caught mustang, ill saddle em up. or even ride bareback if they so desire.

if their daddies dont want em gettin rode by any cowboy with a set of spurs, they shoulda locked the gate.

or in the parlance of you cityslickers, raise them right and they wont be anyone's babymomma. raise em wrong and you cant complain except to the courts. too many young girls today lift their skirts too early and too often. if i had a daughter it would be all about chastity belts and parochial schools.

legal "rapey" issues aside, the fact that a rapist can parade his victim in front of a judge whenever he wants doesn't sit well with me. as if the rape and resulting child weren't enough, the guy gets to legally harass the woman til the kid is 18. it's not about his chances of winning, it's about the shitstorm he continues to cause for the victim.

a convicted rapist should get no contact with the victim or family unless he gets the conviction overturned. paternal rights to a rape baby should not exist, nor should they be debated in a court of law on a case by case basis. complaining victim+trial and conviction by jury of peers=fuck your parental rights. like i said, if they want to see the kid, they should be fighting the rape charge itself, not the mother.

what a waste of resources.

Total Head said:

legal "rapey" issues aside, the fact that a rapist can parade his victim in front of a judge whenever he wants doesn't sit well with me. as if the rape and resulting child weren't enough, the guy gets to legally harass the woman til the kid is 18. it's not about his chances of winning, it's about the shitstorm he continues to cause for the victim.

a convicted rapist should get no contact with the victim or family unless he gets the conviction overturned. paternal rights to a rape baby should not exist, nor should they be debated in a court of law on a case by case basis. complaining victim+trial and conviction by jury of peers=fuck your parental rights. like i said, if they want to see the kid, they should be fighting the rape charge itself, not the mother.

what a waste of resources.

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The whole point of this is
The rapist sues for custody of the child before he goes to trial in the hopes that the case will be dropped by the victim just to stop him from having any rights. Trials arent like movies over in an hour. They take months or years to get before a jury.

ChesusRice said:

The whole point of this is
The rapist sues for custody of the child before he goes to trial in the hopes that the case will be dropped by the victim just to stop him from having any rights. Trials arent like movies over in an hour. They take months or years to get before a jury.

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criminal trials do not take years to get in front of a jury unless the perp really likes wearing orange jumpsuits and getting sodomized in the shower.

in cases of violent rape, forcible rape and passed out roofie rape the perp should be in prison long before any putative child could be born, further the victim should be protected from any contact by the dirtbag in question.

HOWEVER...

"rape" is not always RAPE, and sometimes "rape" is just the tool used by a babymomma to get her way, much like "emotional abuse" and "alienation of affection" and several other clever methods for making a guy regret having let his jizz come anywhere near his new babymomma tormenter. if she doesnt want him in prison, and expects him to pay child support, then she better expect him to see his kid. likewise she should also not be allowed to throw around the R-word like he is richard spec.

if shit goes any further down the rabbithole into crazyland, a dude will need a contract signed notarized and witnessed by a member of the clergy before he can get some tail. and thats bullshit.

let this be a lesson to us all lads. keep your wingman close, and for Bro's sake dont trust bitches. bring your own Brotection, and if in doubt, check ID's.

Dr Kynes said:

criminal trials do not take years to get in front of a jury unless the perp really likes wearing orange jumpsuits and getting sodomized in the shower.

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The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, United States

3:02PM EDT October 17. 2012 - A Florida judge
Wednesday set a June 10, 2013, date for the trial of George Zimmerman on charges
of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, USA TODAY's
Yamiche Alcindor reports.

ChesusRice said:

The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012, in Sanford, Florida, United States

3:02PM EDT October 17. 2012 - A Florida judge
Wednesday set a June 10, 2013, date for the trial of George Zimmerman on charges
of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, USA TODAY's
Yamiche Alcindor reports.

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thats only 9 months, and thats a racially charged murder case with a political headwind.

it only seems like zimmie has been shootin brothas for having skittles for years.
besides, with a black victim and a "white hispanic" perp you should feel good just for getting a trial date set. you know those "white hispanics" run the court system in florida.

Dr Kynes said:

thats only 9 months, and thats a racially charged murder case with a political headwind.

it only seems like zimmie has been shootin brothas for having skittles for years.
besides, with a black victim and a "white hispanic" perp you should feel good just for getting a trial date set. you know those "white hispanics" run the court system in florida.

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The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012,

3:02PM EDT October 17. 2012 - A Florida judge
Wednesday set a June 10, 2013, date for the trial

ChesusRice said:

The fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman took place on the night of February 26, 2012,

3:02PM EDT October 17. 2012 - A Florida judge
Wednesday set a June 10, 2013, date for the trial

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9 months ago zimmie defended himself from that angry, violent black youth, hopped up on skittles and marijuana. and now he has a court date. his defense team is playing for time, to get their evidence ready so they can PROVE to the court that martin was a marijuana negro, with ghetto powered murder fists and a skittles fueled hunger for white women.

most defendants dont get the luxury of lengthy pre-trial liberty, zimmerman is only free because he is such an upstanding member of the "white-hispanic" community, while martin was obviously a rage filled hateful monster.


zimmerman's case is NOT the norm. rape a minor and i doubt youll see daylight before your trial, and conviction.

Just admit your wrong
Google is not on your side in this case

[h=1]Judge postpones rape trial of Philadelphia priest, Catholic school teacher[/h]By Sarah Hoye, CNN
updated 9:33 AM EDT, Tue September 4, 2012

The accuser, dubbed "Billy" in a 2011 Philadelphia grand jury report, will be the key witness against the men, both of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges

ChesusRice said:

Just admit your wrong
Google is not on your side in this case

Judge postpones rape trial of Philadelphia priest, Catholic school teacher

By Sarah Hoye, CNN
updated 9:33 AM EDT, Tue September 4, 2012

The accuser, dubbed "Billy" in a 2011 Philadelphia grand jury report, will be the key witness against the men, both of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges

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You still have not admitted how you could be registered in 31 states. So, pants on fire. You are not correct. You are mis-stating the facts.

You must have Obma-vision. Does eveything look like a Heidi spit turd to you. Well, you must have Obama-vision!

Don't know 11 way to kill with a Marine Corp bayonete? You are looking thru Obama-vision.

Doer said:

You still have not admitted how you could be registered in 31 states. So, pants on fire. You are not correct. You are mis-stating the facts.

You must have Obma-vision. Does eveything look like a Heidi spit turd to you. Well, you must have Obama-vision!

Don't know 11 way to kill with a Marine Corp bayonete? You are looking thru Obama-vision.

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lol
you are really trying hard
how is your swag grows going?
Maybe I should troll your journals

ChesusRice said:

Just admit your wrong
Google is not on your side in this case

Judge postpones rape trial of Philadelphia priest, Catholic school teacher

By Sarah Hoye, CNN
updated 9:33 AM EDT, Tue September 4, 2012

The accuser, dubbed "Billy" in a 2011 Philadelphia grand jury report, will be the key witness against the men, both of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges

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i did some lookin, and youre right, serious criminal offenses take longer these days to get to trial, but no court would simply allow an actual rapist to harass the victim or sue for custody or visitation rights over his "rape baby". none of the cases you cited had shit to do with violence, force coercion or roofies. i can cite cases of retarded legalism too, like julian assange being charged with rape because the two bitches who gave it up in his threeway found out he wasnt as rich as he claimed... is THAT RAPE rape? should assange be registered as a sex offender for lying to bitches for sex? if so then almost every man on the planet is a rapist at some point.

yeah, this is my jaguar.... RAPE!
im a movie producer... RAPE!
no im not married... RAPE!
sure ill respect you in the morning... RAPE!!
i can get you backstage... RAPE!
im the drummer for Cheap Trick... RAPE!
i had a vasectomy... RAPE!
i love you baby... RAPE!
Ill pull out... RAPE!!
just the tip... RAPE!!

arguing that the courts should bar any parental rights for any individual if the bitch simply whispers "rape" into the court record is idiotic. if that becomes law every angry ex-wife or bitter babymomma in the country will cry rape as her first last and only step in getting full custody and ensuring that the dude is marked forever as a villain.

men are already at a huge disadvantage in family court, and spilling your seed into the wrong uterus winds up costing you dearly for at least 18 years even if the broad never accuses you of anything except being the daddy. stacking one more retarded law onto the already towering stack of legalism that makes men into nothing more than ATM machines for any broad who can get a crib midget into her belly is foolish.

as i said before you sidetracked into legalism and anecdote, actual rapists belong in prison, but the R-word should not be the easy way to make a dude regret his penis' eagerness to please for the rest of his life in cases of consensual sex between adults.

consensual between a young adult (18-21) and a nearly adult (16-17) chick, the courts should show understanding, even if she develops buyers remorse later. the ACT should be the issue, not her bitterness 6 months later when she finds out he isnt really a pro skater or the drummer for justin bieber. most jurisdictions already have laws protecting dudes from angry bitter bitches who just want revenge, and in most of these jurisdictions 4 years age difference is the cutoff for minor/technically adult consensual sex. less than 4 years age difference, and no violence, coercion or roofies, and it aint rape. its dumb young people who made bad decisions.

if the age difference is considerable (more than 5 years) most jurisdictions already have zero tolerance for a dude who is that irresponsible. even if he claims she looked like a milf. nailing a chick who i9s under 18 and more than 4 years younger than you is real buttslammin prison time. and rightly so. even if the broad was willing. but in that case it's "Statutory Rape" with lower penalties than "Forcible Rape" and way lower penalties than "Forcible Rape of a Minor"

the cited claims that all across america rapists are pursuing legal action against their victims to gain visitation rights is specious and patently ridiculous. look closer at the claimants and youll find babymomma drama, not sadistic rapists attempting to "re-victimize" their already traumatized victims.

the emotionally charged nature of rape, rape victims and children of rape is being used by a few unscrupulous lawyers and a few bitter babymommas to push their agenda. its not a new epidemic of legal harassment by rapists, its an epidemic of legal harassment by broads who think their pussy is a magic talisman they can use to punish their former lovers for being douches.

protip: women who dont fuck douches rarely wind up facing douches in family court.

Reinsberg pulls most of her information from Shaunna Prewitt, who in 2010 wrote a paper at Georgetown Law School called "Giving Birth to a ‘Rapist' Child: A Discussion and Analysis of the Limited Legal Protections Afforded to Women Who Become Mothers Through Rape." Prewitt's research, however, isn't merely informed by distant, faceless statistics and legal jargon — as a 21-year-old University of Chicago student, she experienced first-hand what happens when a rapist decides to serve his victim with papers seeking child custody.

[h=2]Child Custody for Rapists?[/h]Posted on September 27 2012 by Todd Spivak

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has published our article on how Pennsylvania law handles child custody issues in rape cases.
Pennsylvania has received national attention for offering rape victims protection against rapists who later seek child custody privileges. But even Pennsylvania’s protections are limited because judges have discretion over all child custody matters.
“We’re not going to be stupid and give custody to a rapist,” Allegheny County Common Please Judge Kathleen Mulligan told us.
But it can happen, says Chicago-based attorney and women’s rights advocate Shauna Prewitt.
“For instance,” our article states, “a rape victim may be forced to interact with her rapist for months or even years if a custody hearing precedes a rape conviction. By the time the father is eventually convicted of rape, Ms. Prewitt says, a court may find that it is in the child’s best interests for the father to have custody rights because he has established a parental presence with the child.”
To read the entire article, please click here.
Spivak Law Firm handles all family law and criminal defense matters. To make an appointment, call us at (412) 344-4900 or toll free at (800) 545-9390.

ChesusRice said:

Child Custody for Rapists?

Posted on September 27 2012 by Todd Spivak

The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has published our article on how Pennsylvania law handles child custody issues in rape cases.
Pennsylvania has received national attention for offering rape victims protection against rapists who later seek child custody privileges. But even Pennsylvania’s protections are limited because judges have discretion over all child custody matters.
“We’re not going to be stupid and give custody to a rapist,” Allegheny County Common Please Judge Kathleen Mulligan told us.
But it can happen, says Chicago-based attorney and women’s rights advocate Shauna Prewitt.
“For instance,” our article states, “a rape victim may be forced to interact with her rapist for months or even years if a custody hearing precedes a rape conviction. By the time the father is eventually convicted of rape, Ms. Prewitt says, a court may find that it is in the child’s best interests for the father to have custody rights because he has established a parental presence with the child.”
To read the entire article, please click here.
Spivak Law Firm handles all family law and criminal defense matters. To make an appointment, call us at (412) 344-4900 or toll free at (800) 545-9390.

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dude, i like you, i respect your opinions, and youre not usually too far off the mark, but even a casual observer can see that this post is an advertisement for an ambulance chaser...

did you miss the part where i mentioned unscrupulous lawyers?

none of the cited stories articles and .... advertisements????? addresses the burning questions...

was prewitt's "rapist" convicted, or was she just a bitter babymomma with an axe to grind, and buyers remorse?
did she sue for child support?
if so, did she cash his "Rape Checks"?
why is she the sole authority on rapists and their crusade for child custody rights?
why does her story come from "The Christian Monitor" and lawyer's bus bench ads?
if this is such a real problem why is she the only one who sees it?

dude the whole story smells of shenanigans.

if it wasnt a problem

Why would 19 states have laws in place denying custody to rapists?

ChesusRice said:

if it wasnt a problem

Why would 19 states have laws in place denying custody to rapists?

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in California it is The Law!

once the sun goes down in Sacramento County, your speed limit is around 3 miles per hour.
see, thats because you must drive real slow, so you keep pace with the LEGALLY MANDATED dude walking in front of your car with a whale oil fired lantern (yes, a "Lanthorn" is specified, accept no substitutes!) as he shouts, "An Automobile Is Coming! An Automobile Is Coming!" at the top of his lungs.

sorry bro, the law is the law.

in the city of Vallejo, you cannot legally park a car anywhere, since "all Carriages, whether Horsed or Horseless must be tied to a hitching post or similar structure when not occupied" sorry bro, the law's the law.
you also cannot fish from the back of a donkey or mule. horse fishin is ok though.

in alabama it is unlawful for animals to bathe themselves on the sabbath.

paper will lay still, and let you put anything on it.