3 grows, 1 tent. Open to suggestions.

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For this grow I have six king klone brand blue dream clones in 3 gal smart pots, each with TGA super soil and Sunshine advanced ultra coir. Then I have two king klone white buffalo, one in a 3 gal smart pot with only Sunshine advanced ultra coir. The other white buffalo is in a bato bucket with growstone aeration stones in the bottom half, then a layer of growstones coco ready mix, and on top of that a layer of sunshine advanced ultra coir. All pots and the bato bucket are topped with gnat nix. Both the bato bucket and the one smart pot filled with coco will both be fed house and gardens brand coco's A and B. All plants will receive Dark Energy, and hi-brix molasses. I don't intend to PH anything this grow and see how that works out. Each smart pot/bucket sits in its own saucer. This grow is in a 4x4 tent setup with a 600watt phantom ballast, drawing air from outside through 4" booster fan and into a intake filter. The fresh air is circulated by two 6" clip on fans clipped to a length of pvc pipe standing in the tent, which also has a webcam attached to it. To cycle the air out the air then goes through a 4" phresh filter strapped to the ceiling of the tent which the air gets pulled through with a 4" sunleaves wind tunnel, that is hanging outside the tent and then vented into the attic. The hood is cooled separately using a 6" phresh filter hanging from the ceiling in my room, then into a vortex s-line 6" fan, from there my ducting runs into the tent and connects behind the bulb socket on a raptor 6" hood, then out the other side of the tent and up into the attic. I added some 6" 90 degree vent ducting bends on either side of my hood because the negative pressure in the tent was causing the tent to press in on the ducting and those metal 90 degree bends prevent the ducting from getting squished. Both the 4" inline fan that cycles the tent and the 6" fan that cools the hood are each connected to their own speedster fan speed controller. I did this thinking I would have some control over humidity in the tent and heat from the hood, more humidity or heat less fan speed, less humidity or heat turn the fan speed up, but it seems I don't have much control with just these basic controls. As far as feeding and other than the coco's A and B as well as the Dark Energy and hi-brix molasses, for this grow I am going to try using some ceramic automatic watering spikes just for plain water between feedings. Each of the plants in a smart pot will have its own 1 gal jug for the watering spike to sip from, the bato bucket will be hand water only. About the only things I plan to change for this grow would be getting a tower fan to place in one corner, instead of running the two 6" clip on fans, and I also plan to get a Digilux HPS bulb next month. Someone recommended Cannazym and Microbe Life Plus-C. Although I'm not sure just yet if I will add either of these to this grow. One more piece of gear I would like to get but don't have any plans to get right away would be a small boy de chlorination filter. Something to brew compost tea might be nice as well but again I'm not too set on buying that just yet and I can get tea from my local store for free anyway. I do have a few other things such as sticky yellow traps for flying insects and some stakes to help hold the plants up later in bloom, I could be forgetting to mention some other things as well, but for the most part that is the run down on my setup for this grow.

If anyone noticed any major flaws with what I have going please let me know, or if there is something you know my grow could benefit from that won't cost me too much I would like to hear your suggestions. Also I have RO but I don't plan to use it this time around. I'm planning to just use tap water, no cal mag, no ph'ing anything.
 
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TwistItUp said:
For this grow I have six king klone brand blue dream clones in 3 gal smart pots, each with TGA super soil and Sunshine advanced ultra coir. Then I have two king klone white buffalo, one in a 3 gal smart pot with only Sunshine advanced ultra coir. The other white buffalo is in a bato bucket with growstone aeration stones in the bottom half, then a layer of growstones coco ready mix, and on top of that a layer of sunshine advanced ultra coir. All pots and the bato bucket are topped with gnat nix. Both the bato bucket and the one smart pot filled with coco will both be fed house and gardens brand coco's A and B. All plants will receive Dark Energy, and hi-brix molasses. I don't intend to PH anything this grow and see how that works out. Each smart pot/bucket sits in its own saucer. This grow is in a 4x4 tent setup with a 600watt phantom ballast, drawing air from outside through 4" booster fan and into a intake filter. The fresh air is circulated by two 6" clip on fans clipped to a length of pvc pipe standing in the tent, which also has a webcam attached to it. To cycle the air out the air then goes through a 4" phresh filter strapped to the ceiling of the tent which the air gets pulled through with a 4" sunleaves wind tunnel, that is hanging outside the tent and then vented into the attic. The hood is cooled separately using a 6" phresh filter hanging from the ceiling in my room, then into a vortex s-line 6" fan, from there my ducting runs into the tent and connects behind the bulb socket on a raptor 6" hood, then out the other side of the tent and up into the attic. I added some 6" 90 degree vent ducting bends on either side of my hood because the negative pressure in the tent was causing the tent to press in on the ducting and those metal 90 degree bends prevent the ducting from getting squished. Both the 4" inline fan that cycles the tent and the 6" fan that cools the hood are each connected to their own speedster fan speed controller. I did this thinking I would have some control over humidity in the tent and heat from the hood, more humidity or heat less fan speed, less humidity or heat turn the fan speed up, but it seems I don't have much control with just these basic controls. As far as feeding and other than the coco's A and B as well as the Dark Energy and hi-brix molasses, for this grow I am going to try using some ceramic automatic watering spikes just for plain water between feedings. Each of the plants in a smart pot will have its own 1 gal jug for the watering spike to sip from, the bato bucket will be hand water only. About the only things I plan to change for this grow would be getting a tower fan to place in one corner, instead of running the two 6" clip on fans, and I also plan to get a Digilux HPS bulb next month. Someone recommended Cannazym and Microbe Life Plus-C. Although I'm not sure just yet if I will add either of these to this grow. One more piece of gear I would like to get but don't have any plans to get right away would be a small boy de chlorination filter. Something to brew compost tea might be nice as well but again I'm not too set on buying that just yet and I can get tea from my local store for free anyway. I do have a few other things such as sticky yellow traps for flying insects and some stakes to help hold the plants up later in bloom, I could be forgetting to mention some other things as well, but for the most part that is the run down on my setup for this grow.

If anyone noticed any major flaws with what I have going please let me know, or if there is something you know my grow could benefit from that won't cost me too much I would like to hear your suggestions. Also I have RO but I don't plan to use it this time around. I'm planning to just use tap water, no cal mag, no ph'ing anything.
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uh, why don't you want to check the pH? seems kinda important..
 
TwistItUp

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ElfoodStampo said ^
uh, why don't you want to check the pH? seems kinda important..
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If you look into it you don't need to check PH for all organic amended soil, as in the TGA super soil I am using. The microbes are what feeds the plant and they will adjust to PH as needed, within a reasonable PH range. The bato bucket is the same thing as a hempy bucket which people say you don't have to check the PH with a hempy bucket. About the only plant that I think I ought to be checking PH would be the one 3 gal smart pot with only the Sunshine advanced ultra coir, but I'm not too worried about it. The bato bucket and that one pot with just coir are basically a test to see what the results are. I've already run one grow with TGA super soil and I never checked PH even one time and I got better results then using Vermifire soil and the full line of Foxfarm nutes when I ph'ed every feeding religiously. I also ran RO and supplemented calMag+, and dutch master silica, and hi-brix molasses, and that super soil gave better results.
 
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Thank you for the comment about looking good, and sanitary. I also want to point out that the way I have my grow setup, all but the bato bucket, there is a barrier all the way around because of the smart pot having no holes and then topping off with gnat nix. The bato bucket however does have one hole/tube for drainage/siphon.
 
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They are all King Klone brand Blue Dream, and White Buffalo. I can't find KK Blue Dream on their site but my KK plant marker that came with the blue dream clones has specs listed.
http://kingklonebrand.com/shop/
White Buffalo is 80% Sativa.
Grows 4-6 feet indoor.
Up to 24% THC
CBD 0.81%

 
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If I remember correctly Blue Dream is a cross between Blue Berry and Super Silver Haze.

The KK Blue Dream specs are.
BLU-BD:
Indoor Specs 6 - 8 feet
flowering 9 -10 weeks
Start Cycle (Veg) 2 - 4 weeks
Finish Cycle 11 - 14 weeks
Yield 2.0 - 2.5 Lbs/1000w
THC up to 23%, CBD 0.39%

Outdoor specs
7 - 10 feet
Flowering 9 - 10 weeks
Start Date June 1
Finish date: End of Oct
Yield 4 - 5 Lbs/Plant
THC up to 25%, CBD 0.39%
 
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I plan to swap bulbs and flip the lights/fans over to 12/12 once the plants are 6-8 inches tall.
I got them yesterday and haven't even measured them yet. They are pretty decent looking already.
When I top them I am going to go up from the bottom and leave 4 branches, then make my cut. This way each plant has 4 main branches and they stay shorter. A little different than most people who would start at the top and drop down some number of nodes and make their cut. I havn't yet decided if I will let them veg and get some height then lolli pop off some lower branches, before making my cut four branches up from the bottom. Or just make my cut without lolli popping at all. It does seem to make things easier to get my watering can in their when there isn't branches right at the base. But this time I plan to use a smaller watering can just for feedings and ceramic watering spikes for plain water. I should only need to deal with getting a watering can in there once a week which isn't too much work with the small can.
 
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NICE, VERY nice bro! I'm a life long Sativa fan, Kali Mist my smoke of choice, or AK47 Sativa Pheno's.
I would love to run A White Buffalo, sounds nice. Grown Romulan ...........it NEEDED to be crossed with something.......lol...........

NO matter on your flip time............just up to you and your head room . Those girl's are ready to flip soon as they stabilize and grow.....looking at branching,
they aint no young pups, lol. Will be ready when ever you are!

I leave my M.H.'s in for 7 -10 days AFTER the turn, tends to help some of my strains from stretching too much during initial ramp up........gotten use to it,
do it by habit now.

Turn at 6...............HHHMMMM from their specs, and knowing their ancestors, finish at 36-40" Flip at 10, or my lucky 11, lol, 40-52"............maybe more
If you have limited head room, good idea to turn them smaller on first run of a new breed to you. I'm doing EXACTLY the same. Have several unknown to me
cuts going to flower, Guessing on flip size for my available head room. I turned my Sativa's at 9-10 inches, my Indica's at 12"
 
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JetDro

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Romulan I grew out finished so purple(winter time at flower finish, temps in the 50's n 40;s at night:bigjoint:) that when cured for
2 months appeared Black! Was so pungent, so thick n heavy smoking, even I smoked her seldom.............lol............
 
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^ I edited the post above and added more info about my plans on when to flip.
As for head room, I have a decent space, not a whole lot but decent. The tent is 6.5 feet tall and the raptor 6" hood has a wide but low profile that doesn't take too much height away.
I still might like to get a Blockbuster 6 or 8" hood for a better footprint with that 600w bulb but for now the raptor seems to be doing fine. The raptor hood is very similar to the xxxl hood.
 
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The tower fan I want to buy is going to need to be like 48" to cover most the height of those sativas. And I think I will need the better fan for all those plants in that space. It could get crowded.
My smart pots I think are 8.5 inches tall so that would leave me about 40" of tower fan to cover the plants, If the fan blade/cylinder in the tower fan started at the very bottom anyway. I'll look for a 48" that the bottom of the actual blade/cylinder starts a bit taller than just right at the base. Seems to me like it should be better just running the one oscillating tower fan instead of running two clip fans.
 
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Here's a pic of my tent when I pre vegged 12 before moving half of them OD. So only doing 8 this grow, and switching to bloom a lot sooner, I think I will do fine. For the plants in this pic I started pre vegging I think in February or early March till they were 36" or more before going OD. Which kind of messed me up for the remaining 6 that stayed indoor. I got way better results going into flower when the plants are much shorter and the light can penetrate better. The plants that got transplanted to 15 gal smart pots OD grew to 10 foot.

 
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