***2017 Winter Grow****

***2017 Winter Grow****


Hello Everyone,


I have started my first grow of 2017 with 9 Different Strains!!! Please Follow and Always Open for Discussion. These strains were sprouted the week of Dec. 19th 2016. I have enclosed the details of the Grow Below:


Setup:


5x7 Gorilla Grow Tent

1 Lumitex 600W HPS

1 Mars Hydro Pro II 160 LED (600W Eqv)

1 Soils Tek DE 1000W

1 Can Fan 33

1 Vortex 420CFM


Growing Media in (SmartPots):


Roots Organic 707

Black Magic (Using to backfill 1/4 of Pots Like A Top Dressing) (Also Filled all 10g Blueberry with only BM)


Veg Nutes & Additives:


Advanced Nutrients

· Sensi Grow A&B

· B-52

· Voodoo Juice

Botanicare – Silica Blast

General Hydro – Diamond Black

Xtreme Gardening – Azo’s


Down to Earth – Root Zone


Strains:


Dark Heart Nursery: Sour Patch Kids (Clone)

Cali Connection: Green Crack (Seed)

Humboldt Seeds: Lemon Garlic OG (Seed)

Expert Seeds: Fruit Salad (Seed)

BlimBurn Seeds: Grizzly Purple Kush (Seed)

Seedsman: Jack Herrer (Seed)

Seedsman: Blueberry (Seed)

Expert Seeds: Sweet Zombie (Seed)

Strain Hunters: White Strawberry Skunk (Seed)

Bomb Seeds Cherry Bomb AUTO (Seed)


Pictures Included Below from WK 3 OF Veg:

Hello Everyone,

Sorry for the delay on the update as work has been chaos this week. We are now into Week 4 of flowering and this kids are looking good.

Up until this point I have only been feeding with water and mycorrhizae for root development. Also at the end of Week 3 I topped everyone of my plants to encourage them to bush out inside of focusing on vertical growth. Each strain seems to be responding well to the topping method. This week I will begin feeding with some light Sensi Grow Veg nutes and continue with my root development supplements.

I also went out and bought a Fast Fit 4x8 Tray and also a Botanicare 4x8 Ebb & Flow Table. My plan next grow is to switch from soil to Ebb & Flow, so I am getting started on purchasing all the durable I will need. I really like this stand no tools required and its super sturdy. I did not get the Botanicare name brand table, but their generic Duralastic. The quality is still really top notch as I stood in the tray once it was on the table and it held me without any issues and I am 175. Really happy with the quality that Sunlight and Botanicare provide.

My plan is to continue vegging these plants until they get about 24" tall and then I will be flipping the switch to run them on 12/12. After installing the Ebb & Flow Tray I lost about 22" inches in height. I have the Gorilla Grow Tent extension so I have an overhead of 8'. All factors considered that gives me about 52" of grow space to play with. I can also LST if they grow to fast and I need to make an adjustment.

I will continue to keep everyone updated. Please feel free to post question or comments as I love the discussion. I have included a couple of pics. If you would like to see something specific let me know and I will take a picture and post it.

Since I decided to grow 10 different strains there was of course going to be some variations in height and growth traits, which I had already expect and planned for. As predicted the Jack Herer/Green Crack/ Fruit Salad are growing vertical quicker than the more Indica Dom. strains in the tent.

Just as a note every strain in the tent including the Auto Flower got topped during Week 3. Now that we are in Week 4 I am topping the more Sativa leaning strains only. I once again topped the Jack Herer/Green Crack/Fruit Salad. JH/GC/FS plants should now produce 4 Top Colas. It is also worth noting that I also topped the side branches in the Fruit Salad. Her internode space in not very spaced and I need to train her to bush out more.

Every plant responded well to topping the first time with the except of the Sour Patch Kids Clone. These genetics are from Dark Heart Nursery. Not sure if it is from the breeding of this strain or maybe the genetics did not respond well to topping. Her growth also seems off compared to others strains. She is also light greening which I believe is from a lack of nutrients as going into Week 4 soil is still damp from Week 3 supplement feeding. I felt the soil should have been hot enough, but I guess it lack nutrients for her stage of growth. My plan is to give her a good dose once soil is 100% dry and she should perk right back up no problem.

I have included pictures for everyone to check out growth and also the topping of the plants. Thoughts/Comments, ETC... Always welcomes!

WOW......I finally found someone doing the Sweet Zombie- I'll be following along closely. I have a bunch of these seeds for my next grow, so you better do the strain proud!

Hello All,

I have been back in the garden today tending to the plants and making sure to feed those who are dried out. Looks like my Cherry Bomb Auto is popping pistils, so she is in flowering stage at this point. I have the Cherry Bomb Auto Harvest Date @ Feb 24 (Sprout Date Dec. 19). The breeder has 70-75 days from seed to harvest. Which is good because I am going 12/12 on Feb 1st, so I will only have the auto under 12/12 for about 24 days. I know this may affect my yield, but I just wanted to throw an auto in there as a perk while I grow some regulars.

I also took the height of each of my plants today. The left side of the canopy is relatively short as these are the indica dominate plants, whereas the right side of the tent those plants are taller and more sativa leaning. Below are the measurements of each plant @ 5 weeks.

I have also included two shots of the Cherry Bomb Auto.

Plant/Height (Inches):

Fruit Salad: 11.5''
Green Crack: 9.5"
Jack Herer: 9.5"
Sour Patch Kids: 9.5"
Grizzly Purple Kush: 9"
Cherry Bomb Auto: 8"
Blueberry: 7"
Sweet Zombie: 6"
White Strawberry: 5"
Lemon Garlic OG: 4.5"

SSHZ said:

WOW......I finally found someone doing the Sweet Zombie- I'll be following along closely. I have a bunch of these seeds for my next grow, so you better do the strain proud!

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Hey SSHZ,

I don't know two much about this strain. I just added it as a one-off when I was ordering seeds from Seedsman. The description made it sound like an interesting strain. I will make sure that I keep you updated on the Sweet Zombie and how she responds to the grow throughout the cycle. Keep hanging out!!!

Well, I think I'm the opposite as i grow larger scale and need to have a successful grow each crop. I researched it quite a bit, including Expert Seeds.

As you probably know, the Sweet Zombie is Zombie Virus X Black Domina. Zombie Virus was developed by a now out of business seed breeder named O.G.A. but I do believe the principals are currently involved in other breeding projects. It stays short inside, average to good yield, flowers in 60-65 days and is 90% indica/10% sativa. It's VERY couchlock, each to grow and was quite popular in certain parts of the U.S. some years back. It used to come with a warning don't drive or do much other than stay put and chill......

Black Domina is still around, so I won't elaborate much on it other to say it's a classic, potent indica which I grew about 10 years ago. It too was very potent, but mine grew larger then I liked........

If Expert Seeds did a good job of picking the mothers, I expect this to be a very potent indica. The yield, stated by Expert Seeds, attracted me to the strain. I was looking for a narcotic indica with high yield and this seemed to fit the bill. I'm finishing up my current crop of Kurple Fantasy, Aztec Rain, Sugar Punch, Purple Storm and Chocolate Cheese, only about 4-5 days to go. I've actually already cut half the plants down already, just waiting for the last 11 plants to finish correctly. Then I'll start up by the weekend a full 24 plant grow of the Zombie.

Here is a video grow of Zombie Virus........
Expert Seeds seem to be new on the block, but they are getting some good reviews by others. I'll probably do a thorough thread on the strain, if I'm up to it..........I will also mention I contacted Expert Seeds twice with questions and never got a response so they get an "F" in the customer service department! But I did receive the seeds quickly and safely, although I didn't get the freebie's I was supposed to get. If the strain turns out well, all will be forgiven.

Looking good man.

I also have a seedsman blueberry freebie in flower. She grows easily and has fat fingered fan leaves. She hasn't really started flowering yet so not much to report at the moment.

Nice grow man! I'll be following along as you do your thing.

Hello All,

Went back into the garden today to check on my plants. Looks like the Jack Herer & Grizzly Purple Kush are going to both be heavy eaters. They are averaging about 2-3 days (others are currently 5 days) and then they need a feed or water. I am still just feeding all plants the standard mix below until Flowering Stage:

Feed:
Sensi Grow A & B @ Half Strength (2ml's per Liter)
Voodoo Juice @ Full Strength (2ml's per Liter)
B-52 @ Full Strength (2ml's per Liter)
Black Diamond Full Strength (15ml's per 4 Liters)
Xtreme Gardening AZO Full Strength (1tbl per 4 Liters)

The plan is to continue between Feed and Water until Jan. 31st at this point I am going to flip the switch to 12/12 unless I run into a height challenge. Meaning if I have a plant that reaches 24" before Jan. 31st than I will flip to 12/12. Since I installed a Botanicare 4x8 Flood Tray with Fast Fit stand I lost about 20" in overall height. My grow tent is only 8' tall.

It is also worth mentioning that I do have Phosphoload on hand to control any serious height challenges. I do not like to use PGR's, but I do keep them on hand just incase. I know I have other options such as LST or SCROG, but I am not opposed to using Phosphoload just needs to be used in correct amounts with proper flushing. Don;t everyone come at me about cancer, I understand the risks and everyone has their own preference. I included a picture of the canopy so that everyone can see! Until next time.

thenotsoesoteric said:

Looking good man.

I also have a seedsman blueberry freebie in flower. She grows easily and has fat fingered fan leaves. She hasn't really started flowering yet so not much to report at the moment.
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Very Nice thenotsoesoteric! My Blueberry is the same way. She is short and squat with fat fingers. Her height is about 9" and I am thinking that by the time I throw the switch to 12/12 she will only be about probably 18" or so. I am hoping though that the yield will more than compensate for the short height.

Once she is in full bloom and throwing nice fat buds stop back by and share a picture with all of us. I would love to see what she looks like as she nears harvest. Keep Growing!

SSHZ said:

Well, I think I'm the opposite as i grow larger scale and need to have a successful grow each crop. I researched it quite a bit, including Expert Seeds.

As you probably know, the Sweet Zombie is Zombie Virus X Black Domina. Zombie Virus was developed by a now out of business seed breeder named O.G.A. but I do believe the principals are currently involved in other breeding projects. It stays short inside, average to good yield, flowers in 60-65 days and is 90% indica/10% sativa. It's VERY couchlock, each to grow and was quite popular in certain parts of the U.S. some years back. It used to come with a warning don't drive or do much other than stay put and chill......

Black Domina is still around, so I won't elaborate much on it other to say it's a classic, potent indica which I grew about 10 years ago. It too was very potent, but mine grew larger then I liked........

If Expert Seeds did a good job of picking the mothers, I expect this to be a very potent indica. The yield, stated by Expert Seeds, attracted me to the strain. I was looking for a narcotic indica with high yield and this seemed to fit the bill. I'm finishing up my current crop of Kurple Fantasy, Aztec Rain, Sugar Punch, Purple Storm and Chocolate Cheese, only about 4-5 days to go. I've actually already cut half the plants down already, just waiting for the last 11 plants to finish correctly. Then I'll start up by the weekend a full 24 plant grow of the Zombie.

Here is a video grow of Zombie Virus........

Expert Seeds seem to be new on the block, but they are getting some good reviews by others. I'll probably do a thorough thread on the strain, if I'm up to it..........I will also mention I contacted Expert Seeds twice with questions and never got a response so they get an "F" in the customer service department! But I did receive the seeds quickly and safely, although I didn't get the freebie's I was supposed to get. If the strain turns out well, all will be forgiven.

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Hey SSHZ,

Thanks for sharing all of that information on those genetics for us. That was really great stuff and I even learned something new. You even got me more excited about trying these genetics than I already was..LoL! Yeah you and I are different in the way we grow. I am just doing it as a hobby, so my grows tend to be smaller and I like to just grow large varieties of different strains. I am more of just a small grow connoisseur. Really appreciate you sharing and keep coming back by and spreading your knowledge!

Wajimaya said:

Nice grow man! I'll be following along as you do your thing.

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Thanks Man! Keep stopping by and don't be afraid to share and comment when you do!

Forget using that Phosphoload crap............you are aware of it's issues and you're still considering it???

A proper pinch or two at the right times will slow the taller plants down a bit, you need to consider this.

SSHZ said:

Forget using that Phosphoload crap............you are aware of it's issues and you're still considering it???

A proper pinch or two at the right times will slow the taller plants down a bit, you need to consider this.

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I wouldn't consider using unless I found myself in a situation where I extended my height requirement and it was to late for pinching/topping/LST etc... I will not find myself in that position during this cycle, and the hope is that I will not find myself in that situation, but yes I still have a bottle of it and have used it in the past . I have also heard about the risk that it could potentially cause though.

Hello All,

I know it's been a couple of days since my last update, but I got busy attending a cannabis expo in SoCal as I had to setup a trade show. I am back in the garden again today and the girls look really healthy. I get more and more excited about harvest everytime I go in the tent and look at my girls. I did some general watering today and made some notes and I plan to share with you my thoughts.

I am now in my 6th week of veg and I have been feeding my plants nutrients since week 4. Each of my 5 gallon plants receive approx. 6-8 liters of water. I am also feeding 3ml per liter of Grow A&B and full strength supplements. All of my plants seem to responding well and showing not signs of burn or deficiency with the exception of Sour Patch Kids (Will discuss later). My environment has been very well controlled and I feel is ideal for veg. My Temp range is 73-79* and humidy range is 40-43.

My plan is to switch all plants to 12/12 on Jan. 27th which is next Friday. My plant heights range from 9-15" with the more sativa plants leaning to the taller side. The day before I start flowering I will take a final height from veg state and post here, so that we can measure stretch of each strain. Lastly I made some notes on each strain which I will share below. I have also included pictures of each of my notes.

Sweet Zombie:
SSHZ I have included a picture of the Sweet Zombie, as I know that you were excited to see this in a grow journal. She is about 8.5" tall and very compact. I feed her about every 3 days and she eats about 3ml per liter of food with no signs of burn or deficiency. She is the second shortest plant in my tent and I would say that she is very indica leaning heavy and would hold true to 90/10.

Fruit Salad:
This strain is thriving very well and loves to eat nutes. I have also noted that their was a large stretch of interal-noding during the 5th week. It is the only plant in the tent that doesn't have tight spacing. This plant has also been the only plant to stay directly under my Mars Hydro LED it whole entire veg life. Not sure if its the lighting/nutes or genetics that caused stretching, but I am predicting this to be my tallest plant.

Cherry Bomb Auto:
This strain started flowering about a week ago. I also topped this auto during the second week of veg. Once I noticed it began flowering I immediately move this plant under the Mars Hydro LED. My experience with this LED in the past is that it helps produce heavy crystallization during flowering. I will continue to flower this plant under Mars Hydro LED until harvest. I have a feeling that is plant is going to be short and compact, but should produce some good weight. It's also worth noting that this is what I am feed Cherry Bomb Auto while it is flowering.
--Sensi Bloom A&B (3ml per Liter)
--Big Bud (2ml per Liter)
--Bud Candy (2ml per Liter)
--Bud Factor X (2ml per Liter)
--Nirvana (2ml per Liter)

Sour Patch Kids Clone (Dark Heart Nursery):
This is the only plant in my garden that is seemly struggling and has been since the day I brought it home and transplanted it. When it was transplanted into my 5 gallon I used Roots Organic 707 and it seemed to burn the clone. When I noticed this I didn't feed any nutes, but just straight plain 6.7 water. Then a couple of weeks later it showed a nute diff., so I feed it some nutes at half strength. I also noticed that it has been a little stunted. I think this is a very sensitive strain. I normally don't have this many challenges with a strain. I am going to continue to try and get this strain back on track, but I am not a fan of it thus far. I am hoping my opinion changes, but so far I am not excited about it. This strain is new to market and was created by Dark Heart Nursery and shown off at the Emerald Cup in Santa Rosa. I have included pics so you guys are more than welcome to share your thoughts also.

I will continue to keep everyone posted as I progress through this grow. As always I welcome any thought, questions and/or comments.

Hello All,

Today is the first day of flowering and I have firmed up my nutrient line for the flowering period. I will include the list of flowering nutes at the end of this post. I would also like to note that when this harvest is finished I will be sending a sample of each strain to a company in Northern California called Pure Analytics. This will be for testing the potency and contents of each strain. This will allow me to compare against the breeder numbers and also allow me to see how successful this grow was relative to future and past grows. I will continue to keep everyone posted as we move along.

Flowering Nutes:

Sensi A&B
Voodoo Juice (Wk 1-2)
Xtreme Gardening AZO (WK 1-2)
Emerald Goddess (Vitamin B Supp)
Black Diamond
Rock Resinator
Turpinator
Bud Factor X
Botanicare Silica
Sensizym
Flawless Finish

Hello Everyone,

The plants have now reached week 2 of flowering and they are really starting to stretch. Since I have both Hybrids and Indica's I have organized the tent from tallest to shortest. This allows me to adjust the right height of lights for every plant. I have been giving the plants 2 liters of water (with & without nutes (alternating)) about every 3 days. The auto flower cherry bomb also seems to be doing good and has multiple colas since I topped it very early in the veg stage. Although because it is in the 12/12 the yield probably won't be fully achieved as auto thrive the best on an 18/6 schedule. I will continue to keep everyone updated as this grow progresses. I have included some pictures of the plants as wel