20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

collective gardener

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Lumateks are great with solid power. My 220 in the shop is only 195V, though. So, yes...all my Lumateks took a shit. Once again, though, the advantages of having a relationship with a hydro store shine through. It didn't cost me a dime. They took back the Lumatek's and handed me Phantoms right there over the counter. Try THAT with an online company.

BTW. I have found a wholesale Hydro supplier who only deals with larger buyers in the So Cal area. He charges cost+20%. He delivers...either to your shop or other location of your choice. He has be absolutely the lowest priced supplier anywhere. He works on volume and keeping his overhead low...he only works 3 days/week. Anyone who makes large orders contact me via PM and I'll give you his contact info as well as an introduction.
 

curious2garden

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........snip......BTW. I have found a wholesale Hydro supplier who only deals with larger buyers in the So Cal area. He charges cost+20%. He delivers...either to your shop or other location of your choice. He has be absolutely the lowest priced supplier anywhere. He works on volume and keeping his overhead low...he only works 3 days/week. Anyone who makes large orders contact me via PM and I'll give you his contact info as well as an introduction.
CG you are to cool! I don't buy in volume LOL but what a kind offer to those that do.
 

Ty13

Active Member
Lumateks are great with solid power. My 220 in the shop is only 195V, though. So, yes...all my Lumateks took a shit. Once again, though, the advantages of having a relationship with a hydro store shine through. It didn't cost me a dime. They took back the Lumatek's and handed me Phantoms right there over the counter. Try THAT with an online company.

BTW. I have found a wholesale Hydro supplier who only deals with larger buyers in the So Cal area. He charges cost+20%. He delivers...either to your shop or other location of your choice. He has be absolutely the lowest priced supplier anywhere. He works on volume and keeping his overhead low...he only works 3 days/week. Anyone who makes large orders contact me via PM and I'll give you his contact info as well as an introduction.
Not that it's needed, but I can def. vouch for this Hydro Supplier. I had a bulk order and the man came through BIG TIME for me!!
Hit up CG if you're even thinking about setting up shop and know you're going to need a decent amount of equipment. You'll be happy you did.
 

collective gardener

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Love the sealed room settup. We've just finished a multi-month nute test between Advanced, CES, and Flora Nova. The main result was that when using AN you can use about half as much. The shit is so damn absorbable that using at the same concentrations of CES and FN will cause severe burn. The new bloom room feeding schedule is 1.4EC on a feed/feed/flush regime. Even that will over nute the plants if the flush isn't heavy enough.

CO2 tended to compound any overfeeding problems. One would think that the faster growth caused by CO2 would use up the extra nutes. Actually the CO2 increases the absorbtion rate and just burns the plant faster. However, once we dialed in the new nute schedule, the results were amazing. We have a tray of Tahoes in week 6 that are bigger now than previous finished Tahoe crops. The buds are huge for Tahoes yet still have 60% white pistils. They just keep getting bigger. I'll take some pics today and post em up.
 

kamie

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Love the sealed room settup. We've just finished a multi-month nute test between Advanced, CES, and Flora Nova. The main result was that when using AN you can use about half as much. The shit is so damn absorbable that using at the same concentrations of CES and FN will cause severe burn. The new bloom room feeding schedule is 1.4EC on a feed/feed/flush regime. Even that will over nute the plants if the flush isn't heavy enough.

CO2 tended to compound any overfeeding problems. One would think that the faster growth caused by CO2 would use up the extra nutes. Actually the CO2 increases the absorbtion rate and just burns the plant faster. However, once we dialed in the new nute schedule, the results were amazing. We have a tray of Tahoes in week 6 that are bigger now than previous finished Tahoe crops. The buds are huge for Tahoes yet still have 60% white pistils. They just keep getting bigger. I'll take some pics today and post em up.
Hey CG does that mean AN is winning so far? i use the same feeding schedule as well and it works great. i been using floranova and its been awesome. thanks for keeping us posted on your grow.
 

collective gardener

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Yes, the AN is "winning". However, if you use it as directed, or even half strength, you'll burn the fuck out of some strains. Much of this is due to my rockwool medium, which has a reputation for holding accumulated salts. But till I started using AN I hadn't seen a salt buildup problem. Basically what makes AN great is the nutrient availability. But when too much nutes are available shit starts to burn. If it gets to that point in rockwool it takes several flushes to get the salts out. AN reminds me of a Top Fuel Dragster; Big on performance, but very finicky. Folks just have to decide if they'd rather fuck with a Dragster or a Hond Accord.
 

Wolverine97

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Yes, the AN is "winning". However, if you use it as directed, or even half strength, you'll burn the fuck out of some strains. Much of this is due to my rockwool medium, which has a reputation for holding accumulated salts. But till I started using AN I hadn't seen a salt buildup problem. Basically what makes AN great is the nutrient availability. But when too much nutes are available shit starts to burn. If it gets to that point in rockwool it takes several flushes to get the salts out. AN reminds me of a Top Fuel Dragster; Big on performance, but very finicky. Folks just have to decide if they'd rather fuck with a Dragster or a Hond Accord.
Eh, got me a bimmer and I like it very much. TLO
j/k
 

hunter21312

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You can now get GDP seeds on the attitude seed bank..I think it's 10 regular seeds for about $100 bucks..Im going to be purchase these myself and grow nd test :)
 

collective gardener

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You can now get GDP seeds on the attitude seed bank..I think it's 10 regular seeds for about $100 bucks..Im going to be purchase these myself and grow nd test :)
I had to go back and read the last few posts to see where you were coming from. I guess this is an "out of the blue" type of post. Well, thank you.
 

InsaneMJ

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Glad to hear that your gettin larger yields with the Tahoe. When I first sealed my room with the first run I was getting the same size buds at harvest in week 6 with co2. It's amazing how much of a difference there is when using co2 and not using it.

Have you looked into using bud factor x or Rock resonator? My local hydrostore guy has generally pointed me in the right directions with nutes, but he's been tryin to get me to pick up the rock resinator. He claims its alittle more effective then bud factor x. As far as price goes, their in the same range.
He's claimed that I'll get denser fuller nugs and I'll be able to notice the difference within the week. Been thinking of trying a side by side to see which is better. Or do you think that these particular products are just snake oil?
 

Wolverine97

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Glad to hear that your gettin larger yields with the Tahoe. When I first sealed my room with the first run I was getting the same size buds at harvest in week 6 with co2. It's amazing how much of a difference there is when using co2 and not using it.

Have you looked into using bud factor x or Rock resonator? My local hydrostore guy has generally pointed me in the right directions with nutes, but he's been tryin to get me to pick up the rock resinator. He claims its alittle more effective then bud factor x. As far as price goes, their in the same range.
He's claimed that I'll get denser fuller nugs and I'll be able to notice the difference within the week. Been thinking of trying a side by side to see which is better. Or do you think that these particular products are just snake oil?
Maybe not snake oil per se, but just because something "works" doesn't mean it's good to use. My guess is it's a similar product to Flower Dragon, using PGR's to meet an end. I've checked it out, and got the same pitch from my hydro store guy but I'm not using it until I know just exactly what's in the bottle. There's way too little integrity in this business.
 
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