12 Weeks Flower, Not Ready! Why?

PosativeHerb

Active Member
hello all! i am hoping some one can help me here, cuz i am not sure whats going on.
FFOF soil, pureblend veg, flower, liquid karma nutrients used. feeding around 1600 ppm every 5 days.
i have some GDp, straw. cough, ssh, and og kush going now. all of these are at 12 weeks of flower.
i know ssh and OG kush can still go some time, but the gdp and Straw cough are supposed to be 8 week strains.
they look super fat and danky after 12 weeks flower, but the trics are not near the amber i want.
my gdp hasa about 10 % amber and many cloudy, my cough might have even less amber. they are getting fluched now and prob go another 10 days. so total flower of 13-14 weeks for these strains! why havent my trics bbeen amber long ago? like week 9 or 10? why is it taking so long to amber up on me?
i have been so damn patient but enough is enough i feel.
could it have to do with the feeding every 5 days? maybe use less water and feed every 3 days my next cycle? is it a matabolism issue? i just cant believe 13 week flower period with gdp and my coughs!!! wtf!?!?!
plz lemme know all you pros!
 

SOorganic

Well-Known Member
Im having the same problem. Iv waited for 10 weeks on my afgooies and pink pez. Both are indica dominant and both supposedly have a 7 to 8 week flowering time. I water every three days so maybe its just genitics? i dunno
 

desertrat

Well-Known Member
the estimated flowering time given by seed banks is almost useless. they figure they'll sell more seeds that have a short flowering time. they get away with it because you in theory can harvest them early.

in short, the trichomes tell the truth, the seed banks do not
 

starsailor

Well-Known Member
Very true.

My seeds said 'Flowering, 56 days'.

Its day 63 - still nowhere near.

I check with my microscope daily, mine are still clear, 1 or 2 going misty. Nothing more. I can see this being another week or so.

Its true, seed banks cant tell you when to harvest - the Trichomes tell you. :hump:


:peace:
 

starsailor

Well-Known Member
not trying to burst your bubble, but if your trichs are clear then you probably have another month to go.
It turned the lights down to 6 hours, 18 hours of darkness. (Been 10 days) Its supposed to increase maturation and produce more resin. The buds are getting way heavy, just clear Trich's

:peace:
 

PosativeHerb

Active Member
ok, let me see if i understand.
you guys r saying that all these strains that have a 65 day flower period are just bogus from seed banks? i can surely understand this.
but i know for a fact, many growers never grow gdp or coughs for over 11 weeks.
are they just chopping down cuz they cant wait? or do the trics really turn amber in 65 70 days on most strains that are generally short floweing strains?
WHO OUT THERE HAS GROWN GDP OR S COUGH AND HAD EM TURN AMBER around 8-9 weeks? i know it cant be possible that all cannabis takes over 11 weeks to fully flower? am i wrong?
 

rkm

Well-Known Member
It can be any number of things. You have to assume that the number that the seed bank gives is what they probably grew it in. If this is the case, they more than likely have optimum conditions which if they are breeders and in order to stay in business they probably spare no expense in their setups in order to create the best product and conditions.

It could also be your light, pot size, feeding regime, etc etc....

Use that number with caution as your conditions probably do not equal the breeders, then you can throw experience into the mix somewhere.
 

PosativeHerb

Active Member
ok, i completly understand what you are all saying,
but lemme ask you this
what if a guy gave you a clone and him and 11 of his friends all say this strain finishes in x weeks. you are on x+3 weeks and still dont consider it finished. does it mean that dude and his friends are harvesting early? i dont know when people harvest, but im going for at least 50% amber in my indicas.
or does it mean that i did something wrong? and maybe stopped the plant from maturing as it should have.
thses gurls givin nothing but total love and caree, never had burning issue or any issue really...
oh well, im just ganna sit it out and wait!
 

rkm

Well-Known Member
ok, i completly understand what you are all saying,
but lemme ask you this
what if a guy gave you a clone and him and 11 of his friends all say this strain finishes in x weeks. you are on x+3 weeks and still dont consider it finished. does it mean that dude and his friends are harvesting early? i dont know when people harvest, but im going for at least 50% amber in my indicas.
or does it mean that i did something wrong? and maybe stopped the plant from maturing as it should have.
thses gurls givin nothing but total love and caree, never had burning issue or any issue really...
oh well, im just ganna sit it out and wait!
Still...there are many variables. Just as you suggested they could have harvested early. Or they are more experienced. Without fully knowing the circumstances this cant be answered definitively. It could be them or it could be you, its hard to say. To answer these types of questions I usually start with the common denominator.


 

aknight3

Moderator
all cannabis does not take 8 weeks to flower, 98 percent does your right, but every plant is diffrent and can do its totally own thing, some can take 14 weeks, cali mist should be 14 weeks for maxium eff. imo, as for your non amber trichs, as the last days approach youll see rapid change, patience
 

BornGreen1987

Well-Known Member
The Flowering Recommendations ex. 8 weeks flowering, start the day the plant shows its first flowers, not the first day of 12/12. Its a trick seed banks play to make their harvest times look quicker. My Shiva Shanti II from Sensi should finish next week at 8 weeks, but about 80% of the hairs are still white, gonna be at least 2 or 3 more.
 

I'msostonedagain

Well-Known Member
The Flowering Recommendations ex. 8 weeks flowering, start the day the plant shows its first flowers, not the first day of 12/12. Its a trick seed banks play to make their harvest times look quicker. My Shiva Shanti II from Sensi should finish next week at 8 weeks, but about 80% of the hairs are still white, gonna be at least 2 or 3 more.
Well said.It would be nice to have the truth. do all banks do this for all seeds? Or do they only do this with long flowering ones to make the flowering time shorter?
Either way, us the consumer are left to guess.
 

frmrboi

Well-Known Member
Weak lighting like CFLs take longer if ever to produce amber trichomes. All you guys growing Sativas STOP waiting for the 50 % amber you'll ruin it. All cloudy is as far as you should go, I like it with about 25% clear still.
 

ONEeyedWILLY444

Well-Known Member
you can never trust the flowering times given on the packets of seeds. they can away with it cos we aint supposed to be growing em what are we supposed to do file a complaint. i,d love to see this issue being raised with traiding standards...false advertisement..
 

sniffer

Well-Known Member
old thread ,lol
imo if grown from seed add two weeks to what the pack says , unless you get lucky
i think the the flowering times are based on the breeders perfect pheno for the strain hes selling ,
odds of you finding that same perfect flowering pheno in a pack are not good , better odds with more packs.
most will find hybrid phenos and the flowering time on each different pheno will vary
 

withoutAchance

Active Member
old thread ,lol
imo if grown from seed add two weeks to what the pack says , unless you get lucky
i think the the flowering times are based on the breeders perfect pheno for the strain hes selling ,
odds of you finding that same perfect flowering pheno in a pack are not good , better odds with more packs.
most will find hybrid phenos and the flowering time on each different pheno will vary
This is so true and half the time u don't get the genetics u pay for seed banks rape us. And all this crying when did we start reading instruction or packaging u guys crack me up it a female if its not 100% happy its not going to do what she is supposed to especially on time but better late than never
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r1tony

New Member
I think you need more time in daylight.. by going 6 light and 18 dark they are growing but not getting what they need from the light hours. Sad there is such bad information out there to newbies that they take as bible, we all go through it. Some are smart enough to realize 95% you're told and read is false, some are not and struggle.

Plants will take a lot of abuse, forget the crap you read about fads and stuff that make you an extra 15% yield or whatever. You're new and it's your first grow, stick to the basics and just let them be and they will finish in approx. the time stated by growers (approx never accurate). Stome #*!@&@ with them and let them grooooow.

I remember my first grow, changing lights, feeding time, formulas etc.. never finished. I am impatient but you have to be with cannibas, they will reward you for letting them just grow normal.
 
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