12/12 from seed Experiment

mainliner

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mr head

go back under your rock , you know the one where mainliner is a 15 year old troll with no friends and a shit grower ..... You know the one ;)


Ps ..... EAD !!
 

TheChemist77

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whats the experiment? we know they flower under 12/12 from seed.. y not get some clones insted of wasting the strain for a single grow? pluss they are not mature flowered from seed so the plant isnt living up to its potential...grow for a month or 2 take clones then flower,, at least it will be mature and u will have clones for next run, pluss flowering from seed what if u get males? then its light, and time wasted...
 

Mr.Head

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whats the experiment? we know they flower under 12/12 from seed.. y not get some clones insted of wasting the strain for a single grow? pluss they are not mature flowered from seed so the plant isnt living up to its potential...grow for a month or 2 take clones then flower,, at least it will be mature and u will have clones for next run, pluss flowering from seed what if u get males? then its light, and time wasted...
Heard this a lot never seen it personally if it's effecting the potency it's by very little. I've grown 12/12 from seed and reveg. and while structure has changed greatly I have never said " hmm thats more potent" Now the plant structure can change 110% I had some nice thick stalked sturdy as fuck GSOG's that when reveg. out turned into floppy heavily branching "OG" style plants. I didn't flower these ones out again however others I have, still kicking myself for not flowering the GSOG's out there were some potent ass smoke, but also weren't a true 12/12 from seed they had a 2 week veg under 20/4

Also the males bit, I wait until I see preflowers while they are in solo cups, if they look like they might be male they stay in solos so my space isn't filled with 2 gallons with males in em. If they are female I transplant and top them and wait for the flower stretch to make them nice and tall. 18/6 20/4 is wasting more time/light then 12/12, 12/12 has allowed me to remove males before the females even start flowering generally.

This fireballs I got now is some of the best all around smoke I've grown to date. If she gets better I've got a something really special.
 

Mr.Head

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Lee Roy And Synergy for the OP topped. all 12/12 from seed. They start under a 400 watt HPS as seedlings, the light is about 30 inches off the floor.

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Trippyness

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Blind? No I haven't looked at any of your threads and have you on ignore since the first day I seen you in the organic section.

Don't get all huffy because you act like an idiot and that's how I have judged you. It's not me making you post retarded bullshit, that's all you man. I'd rather be an old man then a snot nosed little kid who doesn't know how to respect his elders or behave around his peers.

I have several posts on here showing my topped 12/12 from seed plants, in the Bodhi thread in the Breeders Boutique thread and a few others.

I'm done giving you attention, I will celebrate the day they ban you from here.

An alcoholic trolling an MJ Board.
WOW. Ill check out your threads.
 

Trippyness

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Lee Roy And Synergy for the OP topped. all 12/12 from seed. They start under a 400 watt HPS as seedlings, the light is about 30 inches off the floor.

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Nice mate, I am using 64 watts of T8 currently.
Was going to use 600w HPS but do you believe that is overkill on a 1 plant 12/12 from seed?
Im using a 4 week almsot 5 week old mature seedling on 12/12 started today.
 

Trippyness

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I don't really have "A" thread, look at my post history I just kind of drop pictures in random threads with a little snippette of what the strain is. :)
Will do mate, glad to see some nice bud from 12/12 from seed.
Like the idea of it.
Interesting and this will be a nice experiment.
 

Trippyness

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whats the experiment? we know they flower under 12/12 from seed.. y not get some clones insted of wasting the strain for a single grow? pluss they are not mature flowered from seed so the plant isnt living up to its potential...grow for a month or 2 take clones then flower,, at least it will be mature and u will have clones for next run, pluss flowering from seed what if u get males? then its light, and time wasted...
Hello mate, I have 3 grows currently.
1 indoor 60 site SoG perpetuial
1 Outdoor
1 12/12 from seed

I have mothers coming up nicely to be used for clones.

I am not starting direct from seed. I have 1 5 week old seedling I am using as A test.

Im well aware 12/12 from seed works, but just want to see how it goes under 64 watts of T8.
 

Trippyness

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Heard this a lot never seen it personally if it's effecting the potency it's by very little. I've grown 12/12 from seed and reveg. and while structure has changed greatly I have never said " hmm thats more potent" Now the plant structure can change 110% I had some nice thick stalked sturdy as fuck GSOG's that when reveg. out turned into floppy heavily branching "OG" style plants. I didn't flower these ones out again however others I have, still kicking myself for not flowering the GSOG's out there were some potent ass smoke, but also weren't a true 12/12 from seed they had a 2 week veg under 20/4

Also the males bit, I wait until I .
see preflowers while they are in solo cups, if they look like they might be male they stay in solos so my space isn't filled with 2 gallons with males in em. If they are female I transplant and top them and wait for the flower stretch to make them nice and tall. 18/6 20/4 is wasting more time/light then 12/12, 12/12 has allowed me to remove males before the females even start flowering generally.

This fireballs I got now is some of the best all around smoke I've grown to date. If she gets better I've got a something really special.
You do 100% 12/12 from seed?
Do this not make the groowth slow as Cannabis is a c3 plant and dark peroid is useless other than for flower.

Would it not make sense to veg in 24/0 for 3 weeks then switch to 12/12?
As 12/12 from seed should slow growth correct?
 

mainliner

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hmmmm?? Arnt these your plants mr head.

what are they doing on the front of a magazine? The question should be how have they got from the magazine to here ????

 

Mr.Head

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Nice mate, I am using 64 watts of T8 currently.
Was going to use 600w HPS but do you believe that is overkill on a 1 plant 12/12 from seed?
Im using a 4 week almsot 5 week old mature seedling on 12/12 started today.
for 1 seedling yeah 600 watts is overkill for sure. Does your ballast dim at all? Turning it down to 250 would be ideal, you should grab a 250 watt bulb as well while running the ballast at that wattage so it doesn't screw with the light colours. a 250WATT bulb would be cheap.

If your ballast doesn't dim I'd just start more seeds :) That seems like the best way to deal with too much light :)
You do 100% 12/12 from seed?
Do this not make the groowth slow as Cannabis is a c3 plant and dark peroid is useless other than for flower.

Would it not make sense to veg in 24/0 for 3 weeks then switch to 12/12?
As 12/12 from seed should slow growth correct?
Yes it would, but I am in a single grow space so my light schedule never has to change. 18/6 or 24/0 for 3 weeks definitely makes the main stalks nice and thick and seems to help with branching a bit. Is that 12/12 from seed though ;) ? that's actually why I started to play around with topping because I wasn't seeing the branching I wanted and had a couple 12 inch cola's I was afraid would mold. I don't know if the topping delays the onset of flowering or not but I am ending up with some really nice tall ladies. It almost seems like it's delaying flowering by another week or so the plants continue growing during this time.
 

Trippyness

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for 1 seedling yeah 600 watts is overkill for sure. Does your ballast dim at all? Turning it down to 250 would be ideal, you should grab a 250 watt bulb as well while running the ballast at that wattage so it doesn't screw with the light colours. a 250WATT bulb would be cheap.

If your ballast doesn't dim I'd just start more seeds :) That seems like the best way to deal with too much light :)

Yes it would, but I am in a single grow space so my light schedule never has to change. 18/6 or 24/0 for 3 weeks definitely makes the main stalks nice and thick and seems to help with branching a bit. Is that 12/12 from seed though ;) ? that's actually why I started to play around with topping because I wasn't seeing the branching I wanted and had a couple 12 inch cola's I was afraid would mold. I don't know if the topping delays the onset of flowering or not but I am ending up with some really nice tall ladies. It almost seems like it's delaying flowering by another week or so the plants continue growing during this time.
Thanks mate,

My ballast only dim to 400w.

I will just use my 64 watts for a single.

Im not using a fresh seedling rather a 5 week old mature one who i just put into 12/12 last night under T8.

Was already topped and a small bit of LST.

I dont believe true 12/12 is too great buy 24/0 for 3-4weeks then 12/12 with topping ans LST I believe would be good esp if you have many plants.

Say 100 seedlings under 600-1000w with good ventalation would be interesting to see with a custom made potting box.

may have to test this later in the year.

But for now ill stick to my sog outdoor and this.

Thanks for the help.
 

mainliner

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:) good luck mate with the grows .




Ps ..... That was a bad photoshop lol i admit .


you know where i am if you need a chat :)
 

TheChemist77

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Heard this a lot never seen it personally if it's effecting the potency it's by very little. I've grown 12/12 from seed and reveg. and while structure has changed greatly I have never said " hmm thats more potent" Now the plant structure can change 110% I had some nice thick stalked sturdy as fuck GSOG's that when reveg. out turned into floppy heavily branching "OG" style plants. I didn't flower these ones out again however others I have, still kicking myself for not flowering the GSOG's out there were some potent ass smoke, but also weren't a true 12/12 from seed they had a 2 week veg under 20/4

Also the males bit, I wait until I see preflowers while they are in solo cups, if they look like they might be male they stay in solos so my space isn't filled with 2 gallons with males in em. If they are female I transplant and top them and wait for the flower stretch to make them nice and tall. 18/6 20/4 is wasting more time/light then 12/12, 12/12 has allowed me to remove males before the females even start flowering generally.

This fireballs I got now is some of the best all around smoke I've grown to date. If she gets better I've got a something really special.
understandable, good smoke is good smoke, and yes it is true the males will normally show a week before females..its a good method if u like to re veg plants...ive tried the monstercropping takink clones off plants 3 weeks into flower and though they are bushier and more branchy, i did not think it was worth the extra time in veg waiting for them to revert back to veg...i guess im just happy having my routine down to always having clones rooted and vegged ready to go into flower same day as finished ones get pulled..reverting is the only choice for those with only one grow room tho..
 

TheChemist77

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You do 100% 12/12 from seed?
Do this not make the groowth slow as Cannabis is a c3 plant and dark peroid is useless other than for flower.

Would it not make sense to veg in 24/0 for 3 weeks then switch to 12/12?
As 12/12 from seed should slow growth correct?
i usually grow clones under 24/0 till rooted then switch to 20/4 till flower.. but if growing from seed i do 18/6 light sced as i get more females under 18/6 than 20/4 or 24/0...
whats c3? only diference i noticed other than male to female ratio from 18/6,20/4, and 24/0 is less stretch with less darkness so 18/6 plants stretch a bit mor than the 20/4 or 24/0..if i want compact nodes 24/0 is the way to go, but a little stretch is nice as the plants are easier to clone off so i usually do the 20/4 thing as a middle ground, more nodes than 18/6 and a little more space between nodes than 24/0...
if u have 5 weeks of veg on that seed it may already be mature as some strains mature quicker than others, mainly indica dominant strains...anyways good luck bro..smoke well to all...
 
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