12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

can you spot the ones that are just genetically taller?

bf80255 said:

can you spot the ones that are just genetically taller?

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Wacha mean genetically taller? I think the close proximity plays too much of a role to try and conclude that a single plant is either taller or shorter but who knows...maybe I'm wrong.

Both strains are taller, on average, than they were in my 1st experiment.

Tonight I finished up the software that will automate all watering for me. Here is an example configuration it will use...nothing is hard coded.

{
"PortName": "COM5",
"Circuits": [
{
"Number": 1,
"MillisecondsOn": 10000,
"MillisecondsOff": 600000
},
{
"Number": 2,
"MillisecondsOn": 10000,
"MillisecondsOff": 600000
}
]
}

Remember my very 1st prototype to turn circuits on and off?


The software will turn these outlets on and off at very precise intervals and each water pump I need will connect to one of them.
I just ordered a cheapo tablet that should work just fine for running the software.

I'm interested in the octagon stuff too, I'm just following along silently! Its gotten me thinking about doing something similar on a micro scale in like the size of a garbage can, if only I had time right now to put anything into effect. Very cool stuff you're doing, this is my favorite journal to follow on here... always something new going on and something new to learn. good stuff

Quick Octagon Update

Got the carbon filter and exhaust hooked up. Since I'm not going to max out the space I put the filter on the wall instead of the ceiling.
Fan is 720 CFM and filter is a big boy: Phresh Filter 701018 950 Cubic Feet Per Minute Carbon Air Filter, 8 by 39-Inch.

Waiting on parts so for the next few days I'll focus on removing the design with the 3" pots that I won't be using. Doing some light sealing and then work on the door.

Hot Diggity Sog said:

Wacha mean genetically taller? I think the close proximity plays too much of a role to try and conclude that a single plant is either taller or shorter but who knows...maybe I'm wrong.

Both strains are taller, on average, than they were in my 1st experiment.

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which ones have more nodes and are tallest? those are the most vegetatively vigorous the ones that are tall and stretchy will not pass on their height generally speaking because it is a product of the environment rather than genetics (pheno v geno)

Octagon Update

All 18 seeds germinated. 9 AK48 and 9 Pineapple Express.
I filled two vertical tubes...1 with 6 AK's and 1 with 6 PE's. The remaining 3 and 3 I put into the top row of the horizontal pipe.

I also inspected some of the veggies that have been in the pipe for several days and one of them is sprouting new roots like crazy...very promising.





Today and tomorrow I'll be working on hooking up pumps and tubes and all that good stuff. Never done it before so should be interesting.

Chapter 2 Update
Day 81
Flowering Day 38

Did a very large flush today ~ 18 gallons. I used 1/4 of my normal feeding. Recently read that I should not flush with plain water as it could disturb the balance. It's a little hard to stay positive about Chapter 2. I can't sugar coat it...they are behind and this is setting up for the possibility of big disappointment. And then I'm focusing all of my mental energy on Chapter 3. At least that is giving me a great deal of satisfaction. Oh well...fingers crossed.

I spent about an hour pruning the under side and removed a ton of fluff. Also found and removed another dozen or so runts that had no chance. I'm pretty sure I've gotten all of those removed now. I'm going to guesstimate about 130 plants remaining from the 168 that I started with.

Brief Octagon Update

I'm doing 4 vertical tubes and then the 4 flood tubes and I'm going to wait until Chapter 2 ends before I decide how to proceed. Figure I've got 5 or 6 weeks until they finish and I can get my tent taken down and prep the room for whichever of these 2 methods I go with.

(9) AK 48
(9) Pineapple Express
(7 maybe Blue Tara
(5) C99-BX1


The flood tubes will have the garden plants indefinitely. The top row has (3) AK48 and (3) Pineapple Express.

Minor Octagon Update

I found connecting 1/2" tubing to 1/2" connectors pretty difficult. Of course I also just learned not to mix and match brands as the dimensions are inconsistent which is exactly what I did. Oh well, live and learn. I ordered a bunch of compression fittings too to see how those do.

At any rate, I have a functioning drip system. It's a little more powerful than a drip but whatever. No leaks so far. Everything looks pretty ghetto right now but I'm prototyping!
I got a cheapo $79 tablet that is going to be the brains. Finished the software and I took a screen shot of the auto-watering. It's configuration driven so I can change timings, add and remove pumps, etc. without touching code.

This tablet will become a permanent fixture to the octagon.



I intend to try recirculating water with the vertical tubes but before I go down that road, I think I'll flush several hundred gallons of water thru the hydroton to get it as clean as I can.

Fucking sick bro. Love the plants and the Octagon. That automated water system through the tablet is boss fareal. I've heard of it but actually seeing it cool shit. You gonna kill this once you get it completely going. Look forward to seeing this happen

akhiymjames said:

Fucking sick bro. Love the plants and the Octagon. That automated water system through the tablet is boss fareal. I've heard of it but actually seeing it cool shit. You gonna kill this once you get it completely going. Look forward to seeing this happen

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Thanks homey!

Chapter 3 will in fact use a new octagon and I got some really cool shit i'm working on.

Are you concerned about the horizontal drainage rail at the bottom of your vertical tubes being exposed to your light?

Uzzi said:

Are you concerned about the horizontal drainage rail at the bottom of your vertical tubes being exposed to your light?

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Should I be? This is my 1st hydro. My Chapter 3 design will do a better job as I won't use this approach but in the mean time, is this something I should address right away?

My assumption would be that you'll end up growing slime on the rail which will then contaminate your res. If it were me I'd use circular pipe you have in your horizontal setup and just cut a snug hole for each vertical pipe, so no light gets in. I'm a growing grom too though...

Uzzi said:

Are you concerned about the horizontal drainage rail at the bottom of your vertical tubes being exposed to your light?

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If this is a serious no-no then please tell me and I'll rig something up.

Looking forward though, this is the probable solution to this problem.

Imagine black 4" drainage pipe wrapped around underneath these square pipes. Every 5 inches I'll have a hole drilled and then this would become the bottom of the tubes:


This is just a dry fitted example but I can keep the return water pretty much in the dark.

Uzzi said:

My assumption would be that you'll end up growing slime on the rail which will then contaminate your res. If it were me I'd use circular pipe you have in your horizontal setup and just cut a snug hole for each vertical pipe, so no light gets in. I'm a growing grom too though...

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OK...I think what I'm planning is prolly gunna be ok then.

Hot Diggity Sog said:

OK...I think what I'm planning is prolly gunna be ok then.

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Haha yep sorry, I didn't realise you were just sort of mocking it up

Uzzi said:

Haha yep sorry, I didn't realise you were just sort of mocking it up

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Well...the 1st picture that you commented on is running so thank you! I'll get right on trying to stop the light from coming in. I'm at least a month out from the *real* octagon with the bottom drain pipe.

Did you check the pipes for light blocking? You may want to spray them black or wrap with foil tape.

I had clear tubing on my first res:






Got the same advice about light growing slime so I changed to copper:



Malawi Gold




Cheers,
Mo