12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

cherrybomb74

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Wow Diggity, this has to be the best experiment on RIU since i've been here, kudos to you :)
You must be like a kid in a candy shop with all these different strains jarred up. I'm loving your KC and the Critical Jack...they all look like tasty nugs though. Amazing. So what's a keeper for your future 12/12s? :peace:
 

JetDro

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Delicious Seeds Critical Jack Herer - Plant #2
Plant turned out awesome. Ended up needing 9 days of hang time. Top cola was about 12 inches tall so I had to cut her up to fit into the jar.
Smells like Pinesol. Dense buds and not too leafy...will be easy for final manicure.
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Your getting the idea on drying I see.....good job bro....you learn quick....
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Pending strain selection, this will be the vessel for Part 2.
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Dimensions on this are:
Width: 21 1/2 Inches
Length: 42 1/2 Inches
Depth: 18 1/2 Inches

I have a drain 2 inches from the bottom which can be turned on and off and has a standard garden hose connection. This will basically be a flower bed hempy style.
I can comfortably fit two of these in a 4' x 4' tent.

I will construct a wooden support on wheels so these can be easily moved.
There will be a scrog net physically attached to each one to allow bending and tucking to control height variance.

With 3 Inch spacing, each vessel will be home to 98 Feminized seeds.
With 4 inch spacing, it would be 50 to 60.

Have not decided on the spacing yet and might end up doing one of them at 3 inches and the other at 4 inches.
I honestly don't think 3 inches is going to be a problem based on the 1st experiment.
 

GroErr

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Thanks...other than the height variance (which was mostly due to the different strains), watering was the only huge hassle. This approach should really simplify that.
And running only 1 strain should make the height variance much more managable (in theory)
Yeah, that's the only reason I haven't done SOG, smaller containers, watering more often and when you get into the numbers you're talking that could be a nightmare. In my case travel makes it almost impossible to manage grows with small containers. Now your setup, hempy style and a drip system might be doable... ;)
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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Yeah, that's the only reason I haven't done SOG, smaller containers, watering more often and when you get into the numbers you're talking that could be a nightmare. In my case travel makes it almost impossible to manage grows with small containers. Now your setup, hempy style and a drip system might be doable... ;)
A drip system would be PERFECT. I've never done one but maybe this would be the time to learn. I figured hand watering this would not be much of a problem but I'm speculating.
Earlier in the journal someone posted some good info for me...just gotta go back and find it.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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how did the test results go with the samples
1st batch arrived to my testers back home yesterday. So far they are pretty blown away but no specific reports quite yet. 2nd and 3rd batches mailed out today.
I have tried only 2 strains so far...the Chronic Thunder and Critical Jack. Both were nice...the Chronic Thunder was definitely more indica (not what I prefer).
The 2nd time I smoked the Jack, I overdid it. I'm kind of a light weight to begin with and it knocked my dick in the dirt.
 

Hot Diggity Sog

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I have one other idea that I have yet to solve...hoping you guys might have some ideas.

Purchasing Fem seeds is going to be very expensive and is not really a viable option if I were to scale this up. Creating my own fem seeds is an option but I've never done it and I'm not sure I would be able to produce the volume of seeds I would want.

Creating regular seeds is easy and creating them by the 10's of 1000's is also easy.

I have this item which would be ideal to start regular seeds in:
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I could start regular seeds in a bunch of these and then as they sex, I would want to transplant the females into the hempy vessel but keep them in their pot. The holes in these pots should be plenty large enough to let the roots through once in their new home.

Problem is, I'm not sure how to do this. I don't think trying to forcefully push 98 of these down into the coco/perlite mix is going to work. Any ideas on how to do this?
 

Dloomis514

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Pending strain selection, this will be the vessel for Part 2.
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Dimensions on this are:
Width: 21 1/2 Inches
Length: 42 1/2 Inches
Depth: 18 1/2 Inches

I have a drain 2 inches from the bottom which can be turned on and off and has a standard garden hose connection. This will basically be a flower bed hempy style.
I can comfortably fit two of these in a 4' x 4' tent.

I will construct a wooden support on wheels so these can be easily moved.
There will be a scrog net physically attached to each one to allow bending and tucking to control height variance.

With 3 Inch spacing, each vessel will be home to 98 Feminized seeds.
With 4 inch spacing, it would be 50 to 60.

Have not decided on the spacing yet and might end up doing one of them at 3 inches and the other at 4 inches.
I honestly don't think 3 inches is going to be a problem based on the 1st experiment.
Are those legs sturdy enough?
 

GroErr

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A drip system would be PERFECT. I've never done one but maybe this would be the time to learn. I figured hand watering this would not be much of a problem but I'm speculating.
Earlier in the journal someone posted some good info for me...just gotta go back and find it.
Yeah, I have a simple Claber system that I've used from time to time, it wouldn't scale to your needs but they work well. A larger DIY system in hempy style would work well imo. Haven't looked into DIY but I'm sure there's a ton of info out there. There's one in the DIY section here but it's so old that the pics don't show up. They're pretty basic, that Claber works on gravity and a timer to open the valve, then a bunch of 1/4" tubing in a re-circulating configuration to flow to the plants and back into the res. Just upscale that, I'd probably throw a small pump inside the res to circulate the water/nutes from from getting stagnant or pooling, and generate some oxygen. The res would need to be fairly large and you need space for it. But at one point I had it running in a small cabinet with that exact problem, I just drilled 2 holes large enough to feed the tubing through the side of the cabinet and the res sat outside.
 
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