12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

It's going to be interesting to see. Obviously bigger plants will yield more. What I'm trying to discover is what is the optimum pot size and space between plants. Large plants waste a lot of space. Scrog makes great use of space but takes a long time.

Fiveleafsleft said:

View attachment 3257822 View attachment 3257823 I have them these new lights 48h agi and they seem to like it!

Before they were having these lights:

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Any chance you can take another picture with something like a bottle of water or can of soda in the picture so I have a frame of reference?

I'm not with them now. But the height is about 80 cm or so, diameter of two biggest cola about 10 cm without leafs.. You do wanna have some space between these colas to let light and air in between...

Fiveleafsleft said:

I'm not with them now. But the height is about 80 cm or so, diameter of two biggest cola about 10 cm without leafs.. You do wanna have some space between these colas to let light and air in between...

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Thanks...for those of use not using the Metric system (which is superior of course), you're talking 32 inches tall and 4" wide. Damn...those are big colas!

Thank's for the compliment! Most part of the plants isn't colas... but with better lamps I hope to get those "one huge cola-plants.

When I started i had bubblegummer, BBxWW BBxGrapefruit, NL, Master kush and AK-48, Its the two latter ones that are the biggest. The smaller in the front, and the bushy in the back are Bubblegummers. Forgot to mention that temps have been very high during most part of the grow, and also humidity.. Thank's to global warming? we've had the tropical weather and the highest temps in the last century this summer. Around 85 F most of the time. Temps and humidity affects a lot. So not sure how plants will react to lower RH Temps and more light.. But I'm hoping for more, but not to, compact plants.

Minor update:

At least 2 of the plants have pistols. I did a PH'd water flush today and will begin the new Nutrient regiment tomorrow morning.
Will be feeding @20% strength using the Week 1 Flower schedule.

Based on my experience with the Blue Planet Nutrient line, it seems if I follow the schedule by age @20% - 25% strength I'm good. Any more and I experience burn.

Another Minor Update:

The girls seemed to really enjoy the flush from earlier. Just PH'd water, nothing in it. I ran 5 gallons through and got about 4 1/2 gallons of run-off.
I won't be able to feed in the morning so I mixed 20% of Flower Week #1 and did a very light feed now...about 1/2 a gallon with approximately 25% run-off.

Many more plants have pistols but I think it's less than 50% so I'll probably call tomorrow day #1 for flowering. Nearly all pots have substantial roots at the bottom already.
Worked on elevating the shorter plants to bring the canopy to a more even level.
Removed the Titan tray and they are now in 2 milk crate style containers sitting directly on the shelf which drains into the tubs. Drainage will work more effectively and the new arrangement makes better use of the light.

All in all they are looking really good. Smell really good...strong. Getting colder here. Temps during lights on is between 70 and 73 and drops to 68 at night. RH stable in the low 40's.
Next update with pictures will be tomorrow night...the official day #1 of flowering.

Day 26 Update - Day 1 Flower

Things are looking great. It's really interesting to observe the different strains and their tendencies. Many of them are getting pretty stretchy despite using a 600 watt MH bulb and keeping it really close. I'm keeping the reflector about 12" - 15" away and the bulb itself is another 3 or so inches above the bottom of the reflector. Keeping it this close gives me about a 2' x 2' footprint of intense light. I find myself pondering how this could actually provide intense light to a 4' x 4' area.

I'm going to continue with my current schedule of watering every other day. Feed with every watering. Flush periodically as needed.
I only have 1 question today: Notice the moisture on the leaf in the last image...just some perspiration perhaps?

Looking good bro. Glad everything is going well.

Looks like your humidity might be raising since your in flower now. What's you humidity like? You may have to add a fan for some air flow

Beautiful nice and healthy

Yeah the MH keep them tight i am trying one this grow and the nodes are tight makes the plant a little too bushy now

can't wait too see the girls in flower now its going to be great

akhiymjames said:

Looking good bro. Glad everything is going well.

Looks like your humidity might be raising since your in flower now. What's you humidity like? You may have to add a fan for some air flow

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lol, you nailed it again James! RH jumped into the 50's today. Until today, it has been stable and has not changed a bit.
I have an Oscillating fan on them 24 hours a day. I keep it on Medium when lights are on and low when lights are off.

DirtyNerd said:

Beautiful nice and healthy

Yeah the MH keep them tight i am trying one this grow and the nodes are tight makes the plant a little too bushy now

can't wait too see the girls in flower now its going to be great

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Thank you, thank you!! I can't wait either

Hot Diggity Sog said:

lol, you nailed it again James! RH jumped into the 50's today. Until today, it has been stable and has not changed a bit.
I have an Oscillating fan on them 24 hours a day. I keep it on Medium when lights are on and low when lights are off.

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Yea I figured that. May have to keep that can on medium to keep it down some but 50% humidity isn't bad just don't want to be in the 70s and up

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Yea I figured that. May have to keep that can on medium to keep it down some but 50% humidity isn't bad just don't want to be in the 70s and up

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OK thanks. Frankly I'm shocked that it has even gotten this high. I do have another dehumidifier on standby if needed.
With Fall approaching, I was expecting RH to actually drop...not go up even with these ladies!

I cant get my room humidity over 50% when lights are on its 30% and lights off its 50% very odd....

i want to bring it up a little in veg as the plants are meant to like it more... might need a humidifier

DirtyNerd said:

I cant get my room humidity over 50% when lights are on its 30% and lights off its 50% very odd....

i want to bring it up a little in veg as the plants are meant to like it more... might need a humidifier

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Up until today that is exactly how it has been for me. RH got as low as 20's when they were seedlings. I actually had to turn my primary dehumidifier off - manages the entire basement.

That's odd just keep that air moving and fresh in old out is all you can do weed is a great plant can almost handle anything you throw at it long as it's not a brick

Day 28 Update - Day 3 Flower

Many of the plants are stretching like crazy despite the Metal Halide bulb still being used.


I think the 3" pots are going to need to be watered every day starting tomorrow. Some of them are not looking as robust as they were a few days ago.
Think I'm nearing the time where I have to start making some decisions on pruning some of the under growth. If you have any suggestions please offer them!

Awesome yeah the metal halide should stop them from stretching as much as a HPS would but make sure you get that HPS on them after the 2 weeks of stretch

Also yeah only thing with the smaller pots and putting them in flower they are going to be hungry hungry hippos