10k Grow electrical set-up and design

patrickkawi37

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This is for hanging the lights, fans, Co2 burners, carbon filters and trellis. And also the bottom will be lined with two layers of 6mm poly to protect the floors. I never do heavy flushings, so no need for a drain. My biggest problem is underwatering. So Im not worried about my run-off. Over the years I have learned not to use saucers or even holes in the pot (if the pot is big enough). And I am using nutes that don't really need to be flushed out, and I am really easy with the nutes. Some times I only feed once for every three waterings. But I build my soil really well. I use to work for Fafard, which is soil distributor. I am really good with soil, and that is where my skills really shine.
Your problem is co2 not overwatering . You need holes in the bottoms of your pots for roots to breathe. Even if you don't use a lot of nutrients it is good to have your plants run off because salt will build up at the bottoms of your pots.
 

NO_ONE

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Assuming a 90c THHN your good to 90a on the sub panel feed.

Your load feeds are all nm-b jammed through the SE knockout in the top of the box. This indicates too much fill for that conduit size or no conduit and improper fittings / no fittings used to secure those feeds at the panel knockouts.

You don't use a main breaker on a subpanel since it's overcurrent protection is installed at the service point.

Green bonding screw only used at service entry, never sub panels.
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ODanksta

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Your problem is co2 not overwatering . You need holes in the bottoms of your pots for roots to breathe. Even if you don't use a lot of nutrients it is good to have your plants run off because salt will build up at the bottoms of your pots.
I said underwatering not overwatering. Big, big difference. Lol, I differently underwater. It's pure laziness, because I dont want drive 45 mins away everyday. Its a easy fix. I'm going to do a "supersoil" type mix with drippers, emitting only RO H2o. Its the only way I can stay organic with less maintenance. Hand feed with tea's once a week.
 

ODanksta

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Your problem is co2 not overwatering . You need holes in the bottoms of your pots for roots to breathe. Even if you don't use a lot of nutrients it is good to have your plants run off because salt will build up at the bottoms of your pots.
Also I've used smart pots, air pots and even net pots filled with hydroton on tables. Never noticed any difference between the plants. I actually hate smart pots, the only time I would use smart pots is outdoors 100 gallons and up. But holes or no holes, its really fine.
 

patrickkawi37

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Also I've used smart pots, air pots and even net pots filled with hydroton on tables. Never noticed any difference between the plants. I actually hate smart pots, the only time I would use smart pots is outdoors 100 gallons and up. But holes or no holes, its really fine.
Net pots and smart pots allow air for the roots. Solid plastic pots with no holes
Doesn't allow the roots to breathe. I miss wrote that . Under watering is not your problem... co2 is. If you don't put co2 or exchange fresh air.. For the third time.. Your plants get choked ... They can't breathe.. Meaning they won't drink as much or uptake shit. So it doesn't matter how little of water you give them.. They are going to drink the least amount possible. You seem to know everything , except that plants need co2 to breathe. No matter what you do.. No matter how hard you try... No matter how many things you fuck up or get right...You will never get over a pound per light unless you exchange air or use co2. But for some reason you can't seem to figure this out and you think changing everything else is going to fix your problem . I get 6 ounce plants out of 3 and a half gallon containers.. Get yourself some saucers.. Fill your room.. Add co2 .. And watch miracles happen. Whoever taught you.. Taught you wrong.. If your here to learn, please take in some of this information. If your just here to brag... These are the worst yields I've ever seen off a room this size .
 

ODanksta

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Net pots and smart pots allow air for the roots. Solid plastic pots with no holes
Doesn't allow the roots to breathe. I miss wrote that . Under watering is not your problem... co2 is. If you don't put co2 or exchange fresh air.. For the third time.. Your plants get choked ... They can't breathe.. Meaning they won't drink as much or uptake shit. So it doesn't matter how little of water you give them.. They are going to drink the least amount possible. You seem to know everything , except that plants need co2 to breathe. No matter what you do.. No matter how hard you try... No matter how many things you fuck up or get right...You will never get over a pound per light unless you exchange air or use co2. But for some reason you can't seem to figure this out and you think changing everything else is going to fix your problem . I get 6 ounce plants out of 3 and a half gallon containers.. Get yourself some saucers.. Fill your room.. Add co2 .. And watch miracles happen. Whoever taught you.. Taught you wrong.. If your here to learn, please take in some of this information. If your just here to brag... These are the worst yields I've ever seen off a room this size .
Lol, its all good man. I think we have a misunderstanding. I do agree with you completely. The new room is being set-up with two Co2 burners. The reason Im building the floor (like a raised bed) is I dont have to use saucers. Yes I will be using cheap plastic pots, smart-pots are alright, I just don't like them. If you look at the pics there are (two) not one Co2 burners. Im not sure why your accusing me of not listening to you? But if speaking of my other room, I simply have to wait for this room to finish before I can do anything. Now speaking of pots, I have read some study where a tree farm had used two different brands of fabric pots and plastic pots. Its cool im not saying they dont work, Im just saying I do not like them. First because transplanting is almost impossible, second they are not really reusable, third Im worried they inhibit unwanted mold and bacteria, fourth they can fall over very easily, fifth they leak water from the side walls, lastly they are more expensive about 3 times as more expensive as a traditional pot. But like I have said its all good, this thread had nothing to do with my techniques or growing preferences. It was soley just electiral and design. And honestly my yields are not that bad considering the strains are L.A Confidential dominant. And I am completely honest about my yields, I could easily lie and say I am pulling pounds from one little LED. But I dont, I've been growing for a long time. By no means am I saying I am the best ever bro, I am fully aware I've been slacking.But hopefully the new room I can dial in to be more efficient. In this game you reep what you sow. So with that being said im putting down the keyboard and picking up the hammer.;)
 

patrickkawi37

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Lol. I wasn't suggesting using fabric pots... I was suggesting using plastic pots with holes in the bottom. You said you have used plastic pots without holes which sounds ridiculous. You should know your roots need to breathe In order to stay alive and grow... Which brings me to the next thing I stated ... Your roots will not breathe inside raised beds because there is no holes for air .. This is going to make your roots suck, they're not going to take up any room in the soil.. And your yield is going to suck as bad as it does now... If your trying to be successful stop being lazy. Use saucers.. Like you said.. " I underwater anyways" "it's my biggest problem" so what the hell are you worried about run off for .. You say you don't get any.. So use saucers.. So Your roots can breathe... Then add the burners .. So your plants can breathe... Next thing you know.. You will actually get enough nugs to pay the bills .. Your welcome
 

ODanksta

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Why you are not using Time Delay Relay and Electrical Contactor on the electrical board ?
Because im using a soft start ballast. They are suppose to (sense) the other ballast and start separately. But yes I wished there was a better way to control them.. I would really like to do a sun rise and sun set scenario
 

ODanksta

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Lol. I wasn't suggesting using fabric pots... I was suggesting using plastic pots with holes in the bottom. You said you have used plastic pots without holes which sounds ridiculous. You should know your roots need to breathe In order to stay alive and grow... Which brings me to the next thing I stated ... Your roots will not breathe inside raised beds because there is no holes for air .. This is going to make your roots suck, they're not going to take up any room in the soil.. And your yield is going to suck as bad as it does now... If your trying to be successful stop being lazy. Use saucers.. Like you said.. " I underwater anyways" "it's my biggest problem" so what the hell are you worried about run off for .. You say you don't get any.. So use saucers.. So Your roots can breathe... Then add the burners .. So your plants can breathe... Next thing you know.. You will actually get enough nugs to pay the bills .. Your welcome
Like i said it was a misunderstanding, using no holes with a high aeration soil, in a very large pot is fine. Im talking like 25 gallon and up. But im making trays that dont drain but the pots will have holes...
 

doubletake

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I agree. Not rec, but medical would be nice. Anything other then what we have now, would be nice. I am more about decriminalization then legalization. But then again Im not in a rec state, so I really have no idea. I agree Colorado is flooded with trash, but legalization has already effected the prices in the surrounding states.
Your from Texas right? Originally I had buddy's there paying 4k for bomb and now it's like 3 mabey 35 at the most
I think mostly cause co this year

People getting them in co for like 2 to 25 and taking it a few hrs away to make 1k a p
 

ODanksta

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Your from Texas right? Originally I had buddy's there paying 4k for bomb and now it's like 3 mabey 35 at the most
I think mostly cause co this year

People getting them in co for like 2 to 25 and taking it a few hrs away to make 1k a p
I still get 3600.. but its got to be the absolute best. Its all about the frost, smell and most importantly the taste.. i cant always offer the frostiest, but mine burns the best. And most of my stuff goes 90 days regardless of the strain. My peps always bitch about the purps and the hydro runs...most of my stuff is 60% sativa if not more
 

doubletake

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I still get 3600.. but its got to be the absolute best. Its all about the frost, smell and most importantly the taste.. i cant always offer the frostiest, but mine burns the best. And most of my stuff goes 90 days regardless of the strain. My peps always bitch about the purps and the hydro runs...most of my stuff is 60% sativa if not more
Yeah Defenetly top shelf indoor deserves that, and what are hey bitching about ur purp for and the hydro, stuff looks amazing?
 

ODanksta

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Yeah Defenetly top shelf indoor deserves that, and what are his bitching about ur purp for and the hydro, stuff looks amazing?
The purple stuff has the bag appeal but always seems to be not as strong. And the taste of the purple stuff just isnt there. Now for the hydro it seems to be more harsh, and the smell isnt as strong. I put it this way, we had a hydro grow going and there was one plant in soil. I was using botanicare kind, and I think the soil was actually miracle grow. But the soil plant was by far the best plang in the room. It took longer to finish about two weeks longer, but it was the best.
 

ODanksta

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Alright alright fuck letting these dudes low ball me hahaha jk
People always try to low ball me. They are always like I can get them for 2800. Im like cool get me 5lbs and they never can. And the stuff that comes in the mail always looks the same, always has that not properly cured taste too.
 
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