Hey we are all on here for 2 reasons - either to LEARN/IMPROVE how to grow grow OR to chat with other growers and show off our grow. The issue isn't whether there are better ways to grow, it's HOW that information is communicated. If I were using an HPS throughout my grow and didn't know that a MH would have a significant improvement during veg, I would want to know that. What I wouldn't want is to be called an idiot or that my plant is a piece of shit because I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Big difference. There's a way to help a fellow grower out without making him feel like shit.

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.

Current grow: http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...rly-misty.html

My 1st grow: http://www.rollitup.org/newbie-centr...h-me-luck.html

Im not about drama but here is a prime example....It only took 1 minute after my original post for this comment....LMAO

The only difference is...ABS will tell you his opinion....then leave it up to you to go with it or not....Never seen him sit here and go back/forth with anyone with copy/paste info like other people. Seems more to just be speaking from his experience....thats all Im looking for.

And I have been using a 400w HPS from jumpstreet. It may not be ideal....but it gets the job done during veg.

Zeke, budsmoke's last post ISN'T what I am talking about. I would want someone to point out that an HPS isn't the ideal light to use during veg. However, if he called you a fucking idiot for using that light, then THAT would be what I'm talking about.

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.

Current grow: http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...rly-misty.html

My 1st grow: http://www.rollitup.org/newbie-centr...h-me-luck.html

Ok all good just wasn't sure if he was being a dick or not.

I personally thought his post was dick-free myself, BTJM.

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I grow only tomatoes and for my personal use. Any inference otherwise from my posts is completely false.

Current grow: http://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal...rly-misty.html

My 1st grow: http://www.rollitup.org/newbie-centr...h-me-luck.html

Ok i dropped a bomb..... let me give you my reasoning........


plant vegged under hps has a different texture, at first glance of a hps vegged plant shows long internode spacing, the leaves will usually appear overwatered,

the best way to prepare your plant for this light is to......

veg in large pot under 5500-6500k lights (MH) this allows your plant to dwarf itself. then supplmenting a carbo additive will double bud sites, i use "sweet" its mag. and cane sugar. then when i want to flower. heres what i do

i start pulling this plant out 2 hours a day to adjust to getting lower light. so i remind myself to move these girls in the dark. so over the first two weeks of flowering your plant doesnt stress so hard. this orange light really means death....


i have never run a cycle under these lamps but i swear if you mh your plant for at least 30 days you will never veg under hps again

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Abudsmokers_Journal

I would never knock the budget grower either, we cant all have tons of hydro goods laying around.

Alot of people here treat and feel so passionate about their grow. if you jam your style down your throat it makes you the dick. if everyone posted heres what i did and heres what i got wow, we would all be smart.

i love showin and sharin eye candy. thats the only reason i come here. i dont want to sell you shit, i dont want to be mr. Right. i want to chill and shoot the shit.

after you show your colors for a few months then we get to see who you are. there are lots of growers in my city, you think im a bid dog... there is always a bigger fish...... you will want the connections of growers over time. if you play your cards right you can set yourself up for life.

Chose your battles and SHOW and GIVE respect and it will return everytime...
it takes 2 to argue.

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Abudsmokers_Journal

It's all good bro!!!! just wasn't sure if you were being a dick or not cuz you didn't explain nothing just dropped the bomb like you said...