~The way back machine~ Before the pigs came~ - Page 2

subcool · #11 05-20-2008, 03:55 PM

Jacks Cleaner is an old friend as you can see I have had her along time. I would like to first thank Skoosh who gave me the original beans and this is what he had to say about the Seeds.
“Well, actually let's start with "skosh"
1985 SSSC (Nevil's)
NL#5 X Pluton
Back crossed into the original NL#5 mom.
NL#5/Pluton X Purple Haze
Backed into the NL#5 mom”

He crosses it with some crazy Jamaican he had and then back to some kush he had so it’s a crazy combo for sure. All I can tell you is I spoke of it for 5 years to badboy who during that time traveled all over tasting some of the best and making friends with Bubbleman and others. I think hes a pretty good judge of good cannabis and when we finally got an f1 cutting to him and he grew it out the results were impressive to say the least and he aggress for sheer potency it’s the work horse of the species.
Its best harvested at 56 but max yield and potency are better at 63 were she takes on a bite. The bubble is absolutely brutal having a flesh tone and a better taste than the actual bud. I have tried many ways to improve the taste of the actual mom using growing methods and finally gave up and created Hybrids like JCB and now JTR that has a sweet mango/lemon flavor and a smoother draw with the same pronounced resin if not more.

Dopalicious · #12 05-20-2008, 04:06 PM

jaw meet floor - hello

korvette1977 · #13 05-20-2008, 04:09 PM

Insane pictures ,, Im sure you have some story's .. I'm glad you done with "your time" ad getting back into the swing of things Do yourself a favor. Grow for yourself dont sell it and most of all .. Dont make any new friends , Or dont let them know what you do .. Peace Thanks for the pic's

Florida Girl · #14 05-20-2008, 04:14 PM

Beautiful!!

BTW... how did you get busted?

rockfish · #15 05-20-2008, 04:15 PM

Awesome pics, Sub! Great stories too. Thanks for sharing...

~Rock~

subcool · #16 05-20-2008, 04:33 PM

I want you to know I have lost this girl 4 different times 3 times alone to piggies so if I seem obsessed with her Excuse Me! ( Steve Martin Reference) Each time good friend like Pi, Walking Dude, and STP returned her to me. We know have the clone secured on multiple continents.

subcool · #17 05-20-2008, 04:40 PM

korvette1977

This is an old story I have been legal for almost 4 tears give weed away here never take coins.

I got busted by living down south and selling weed simple I moved

Jacks Cleaner Blueberry Lets look at what now would be considered a selection thread. The only problem is I only pollinated enough for about 40 seeds so the first 15 used up a lot. I sent a few friends some but I don’t know where they might be. I sent Bog the rest I figured that X a bubblegum would be insane of flavor if stabilized. You are looking at my first cross and the criteria was only it had maroon stems and lemon berry sounded good to me! You can’t count me Crossing the male Jack Herer to the Cleaner Pheno it was the only way to preserve it and I only made a hand full of seeds.
We got some variation but at that time I didn’t know really why. I read everything I could and shortly before this run ended I had at least a plan to make the JC bx I just didn’t get a chance to follow through for 4 years. You can see I had some clue I had each female labeled and I took clones and budded each female under the same conditions to select the best. My male selection criteria was stupid Blue Color and a berry smell wow I still use the same simple ideas but now we work a male with many known females to determine his traits. This is one reason I re started with Space Queen as a male and why JTR is far superior over JCB.

We also got a sativa Pheno that STP dubbed Speed racer due to its hazsy speedy buzz. I think he grows it to this day. But the good news looking back I guess is 3 females were very similar. All were extremely potent and had a instant nap quality. I had many a friend take a few bong rips and pass out on my couch.

subcool · #18 05-20-2008, 04:45 PM

I met ~Shabang about this time and Tommy^2 left some Micanopy Moonbean aka Gainesville Green and he left some cuts in the fridge say 42 degrees F. back then we thought you had to snip, dip and root or it wouldn’t work the book all said that and Ed mentioned an air bubble and cloning underwater. We know that’s crap and cuts will live in the cooler for weeks and this allows us to not use moms! That’s right I said it I heard other breeders cringed at the thought it’s a simple process of making sure you have backs ups and a good cloning system. If you get 95% and you take 2 cuts your probably going to get both to live. Taking cuts from veg and storing in the time machine ( Refrigerator Crisper) until we root them and they become the next crop. Call it continuous moms.

You can see the small area here,

subcool · #19 05-20-2008, 04:49 PM

I was in Amsterdam in 1999 standing in line at the Blue Bird to buy some Malana Cream and some Thwizla Hash. The red haired dude there that works as a cutter was offering Warlock seeds from Magnus genetics for like 50 guilders a pack at the time a pack of AK-47 was 300$ so I grabbed a few packs. Iterestingly enough that same year the guy that created Great White Shark was selling 50 seeds for 25 Guilders should have bought a few thousand I guess. I have never been one to mince my words and I won’t stop now. While its unique strawberry smell gave it great buyer appeal the weed was shite and lacked any ready body or potency. Sure looked nice though!

subcool · #20 05-20-2008, 04:53 PM

I was harvesting so much weed back then I permanently smelled like a bud. When I left the house I kept smelling weed, seems the resin had permeated my skin or some shit. Thanks to AE I no longer grew little 16” tall plants but full size mommas fitted together to form a solid carpet of buds. I use the same basic method today but I allow much more room in between each plant and quantity isn’t my goal now but max quality. I no longer use c02 for a few reasons I have 3 kids in the home and we have more weed than we can smoke or give away now. Our laws prevent the sale of any meds so extra just gets turned into cookies and I have to trim it so we grow what we need.

Back then we tracked every gram and me and several friends competed for the largest show harvest I didn’t win btw I had a FNG run 16 JC under 2K in same rig with c02 and he vegged em to long. He pulled 74 zipps off 2K. Some of the qp’s were 4 buds zipps.

This ends this saga I hope you found it as cool as I did!

If you want to read what happened next

You can check my book out in Sept

Dank: The Quest for the Very Best Marijuana: A Breeder's Tale by Subcool
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Based on the author's 20 years of passionate selection and experience, Dank: The Very Best Marijuana is the story of one breeder's quest for pot perfection. Author Subcool, both a talented photographer and a well-known breeding whiz, describes each step of his journey toward ganja heaven: raising each strain, mixing and matching traits, and ultimately choosing the offspring that will advance to become the newest pinnacle in pot — the newest dank. Revealing his thought processes as he assesses the traits that will go forward, Subcool provides an intimate portrait of each variety's personality. Beautifully lit photos and full-color spreads accompany these complete descriptions of over 35 varieties, with detailed profiles of each strain's aroma, taste, and high, as well as how it grows, and what it looks like. Useful appendices feature full genetic trees of each strain discussed.

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