So for the last year Sticky Lungs and Joe Blow have been prompting me to try a new soil called Harvest moon. It really doesn't have a name or a label but these guys carry a product line called that and they seem like really nice people.
The main complaint with Roots is the fir bark that is used as a filler. It gives you splinters and makes us wonder if the mix is the best it can be. So the Harvest Moon people don't use Fir bark but high quality Coco Fiber and no spinters.
They hand wash the coco untill its extremly low ppm and then hand mix there soil. They do this outside which bothers me somewhat.
I love there soil mix so far and we have made an entire batch of Super Soil using 8 bags of there mix as a base.


Here are the two products.

So lets take a look at the ingredients of a product called Roots Organic

Lignite*, coca fiber, perlite, pumice, compost, peat moss, bone meal, bat guano, kelp meal, Green sand, soy bean meal, leonardite, k-mag, glacial rock dust, alfalfa meal, oyster shell flour, earth worm castings and Mycorrhizae.
I have always believed in giving my plants a wide range of soils and additives I figure it's like a buffet they get all they need

“Lignite, also known as leonardite, mined lignin, brown coal, and slack, is an important constituent to the oil well, drilling industry. Lignite, or leonardite as it will be referred as hereafter, is technically known as a low rank coal between peat and sub-bituminous. Leonardite was named for Dr. A.G. Leonard, North Dakota's first state geologist, who was a pioneer in the study of lignite deposits. Leonardite is applied to products having a high content of humic acid. Humic acid has been found to be very useful as a drilling
mud thinner.”

Another local product we are trying now is called Harvest Moon

Washed coco fibers, Alaskan peat moss, perlite, yucca, pumice, diatoms, worm castings, feather meal, fishmeal, kelp meal, limestone, gypsum, soybean meal, alfalfa meal, rock dust, yucca meal, and Mycorrhizae fungi.

So the Harvest Moon boys also believe in just add water for people that are growing medicine and have less experience. There solution is an additive called One Shot which I am still awaiting data on.

You add 1/2 to 3/4 cup to a bag of there soil and its good to go.
I used a small 1/2 cup for a 7 gallon pot for this trail

So both of these plants were transplanted on the same day and were the same size. They have been vegging under a 1k Hortilux Blue for 10 days.

These Tiny bomb clones rooted in 5 days by MzJill.

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Here is the Subs Soil Concentrate with Harvest Moon Topping

I used 60% Super soil and 40% Topping

Here is My new revised Soil mix

8- Large bags of High quality Organic potting soil with a coco and Mycorrhizae 25# bag Organic Worm castings
5# Steamed Bone meal
5# Bloom bat Guano
5# Blood meal
3# Rock Phoshate
¾ cup Epson salts
½ cup Sweet Lime ( Dolimite)
½ Cup Azomite ( Trace Elements)

Here is the Subsoil Tiny

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I am happy to report the method that took me a life time to perfect as a cannabis grower is stomping the ass off a local product and method.
The most stunning part is the day after the last shoot the taller subsoil plant was placed under a 400 watt Hortilux Blue and the Harvest Moon plus One Shot plant was left dead center a 1000 watt Hortilux Blue.

This 26" Tinybeast will be placed in 12/12 as soon as I find a place to bud her

Comparing the two esp with the bulb difference I will keep using Subsoil

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So you like the Roots better then?


you dont like high n bat guano huh? To hott ?

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that leonardite sounds great..I remember as a kid in hillbillyville; morell mushrooms only grew in certain places...one common factor I saw was charcoal-e.g. behind abandoned houses, burn pits, fire areas...but the biggest morells i've ever found(the size of my fist!!!)-every year same spot, it was on the side of the r.r. tressle:coal...they grew ON the coal...now if morells like something, and they are the ULTIMATE soil snobs! it's gotta' be good!

im using roots organic now i think it might be better than the ocean forest by foxfarms i was using before and its a little cheaper. nothing beats soil grows done properly.

due to $$ constraints and very little b.d.compost finished right now; I've had to come up with a far cheaper(than I'd like!) version of my soil...now it's over 90% fallow black dirt,(no coco or perlite), azomite, fish bone meal, kelp meal, bat guano, shell lime, and now I'm just treating the beds with b.d.compost tea with molasses. the transplantees already are in 75% coco/25%b.d.compost; so they have a good start...and of course they still get the earth juice action....my really high end stuff(spacebomb,vortex,t.wreck,etc.) will still get the good stuff(coco/b.d. compost) though!

Love what you do sub gotta tell ya everytime... Can't wait to see how your experiment turns out, I'll be ordering Spacebomb soon.( I love the tinybomb pheno, even if she was still maxin at 40g).. Keep an eye out for my grow comin soon usin my version of your supersoil, I like to give my ladies a buffet of soils and amendments as well.
Peace and Love ppl

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out of necessity(lack of $$ and lack of b.d.compost) I've had to switch to fallow black dirt, with fish bone meal, oyster shell, blood meal,azomite, and b.d.compost teas... I was really sold on 70% coco coir because of my fixation with aerated roots...well; it turns out that the biggest advantage (and possibly the only advantage!) is lighter buckets. this means a lot when you're playing musical buckets! anyway, I was always slightly uncomfortable with diluting my biodynamic soil with empty filler. there IS better drainage, which gives the coco credence among beginners(no overwatering issues); but as subcool said: it's just more watering, and less soil!