Do you have any pics of plants you've grown in this recipe?
the super soil recipe was great, but i have ran this modified version a few cycles now and am much happier with the results. the herbs smell, flavor, crystal content, and stickiness are unbeatable. i will list the recipe, and then explain what i changed and my reasoning. i do a quarter batch from the original recipe.
2 large bags roots natural and organic soil
15 pounds Earth Worm Castings
420g fish bone meal (down to earth 3-16-0)
420g bat guano (happy frog 0-5-0)
420g blood meal (down to earth 12-0-0)
80g potassium sulfate (0-0-50)
200g ancient forest alaska humus (general organics)
200g xtreme mycorrhizal granules
100g sea kelp (algamin 1-0-2)
70g dolomite lime (30% cal 3% mg or 75/12)
50g alfalfa meal (down to earth 2.5-1-1)
20g humic acid powder (down to earth)
8g Epsom salt
i do 420 grams instead of 560 (1.25 pounds) because i felt the original mix was too strong, and it did leave some residual BEFORE curing. lowering down too 420g removed that fixing the problem.. the plants have a very very light beginning of a color fade on a day 63 chop.
the potassium sulfate is obviously to give the soil a (what i feel was needed) potassium boost. sulfer is also a flavor enhancer.
the alaska humus has a very large diversity of microbial life that it adds to the soil, and it also acts as a ph buffer keeping your ph around 7.
xtreme mycorrhizal granules i have used in the past and had great results, so i figure adding some into the soil mix is beneficial.
i use more azomite because in my opinion from past experiences azomite and mycorrhizal combo have drastically improved yields and plant vigor.
sea kelp is also for diversity of bacteria being added to the soil, everyone knows the benefit if seaweed/kelp in cannabis, plus it also is a small K boost.
alfalfa meal i added because of the growth hormone triacontanol basically as long as u arent giving too much of it (which can delay flowering) its just a natural steroid for the plant basically.
during flowering i use this schedule to feed the plant:
STRAIGHT TAP WATER (i have gone thru the trouble of filling gallon jugs thru the water filter at a very slow pace and the results are very very similiar.. so i dont take the time to use dechlorinated water anymore.. its my understanding anyway that the chlorine content in water is no where near enough to kill the bacteria in soil. it would have to be at the strength of pool water, which my water is not, im sure somewhere somebodys is though)
my plants are in 7gal pots, i give em 2 gallons of water as soon as the saucer below is dry. and when i do additives, i give it once a week, on the 2nd jug per plant.
here is my flower feed schedule:
5ml liquid karma (day 1-day 14)
10ml liquid karma (21-49)
2tbsp sucanat (day1-14)
3tbsp sucanat (21-42)
4tbsp sucanat (49+)
5ml hygrozyme (1-49)
i started just water only when i first started with super soil.. experimented with things here and there.. the things i found most beneficial were definitely liquid karma, and the sucanat.. hygrozyme is good, but if u need to go without something, keep the lk and sucanat and dump the hygrozyme.
i pull very well.. no less than 4oz a plant (4 plants under a 1k) on the low yielders (grandaddy) and easily double on a high yielder. the gdp turns purple no matter what the temperature is, because its just the right amount of nutrients to where it starts fading at the end of flower.
Last edited by sidewing; 05-08-2012 at 06:33 PM.
Do you have any pics of plants you've grown in this recipe?
Thanx for sharing, it is always good to experiment and find your own way. Maybe soon others will follow and agree.
seeds, i got the cutting 3 years ago from ken and have kept it alive, i been trying to get some seeds off of it, only managed to find 1 in many runs indoor and outdoor.. it is a strain that dosnt like to seed. which is a good thing.
i had some stress this cycle though between heat and light cycle changes and a couple power outages, and i noticed a few seeds on all my plants this time, but there is still a major amount of good bud, im hoping this will be the round i finally get some seeds just incase for backup purposes.
im running a master og kush that i did from seed that is real good. also going to run a jack herer j1 and sonoma coma on this next cycle. have some sweet n sour kush seed pops hoping to find a good keeper female.
i also have been assembling a list of core ingredients and sourcing them because i want to make my own soil mix completely from scratch. i have the list saved, but itll cost me a couple hundred dollars to order what i need and i just cant put down that kind of money on soil right now for an experiment. but as soon as i get a change to make it, im going to do half of the garden with that mix, and half super soil, and see how it compares.. if its something good ill post it on here for people to try as well.. its a great soil mixture.. all the diversity one can imagine. should be great.
i live a few hours south of the bay area in cali so i dont take the trip there nearly as often as i used to.. but when i had the kens cut available to me i was there immediately lol.
but yeah u will love that kens gdp, its fire.. it tests always around 20% thc.. outdoor was about 19% for me.. indoor to 20%.. not much difference.. flavor is amazing soon as its dry, and it gets way better after a month cure.. plus when u open the jar its amazing. one of those strains that u stink up a room with just a gram in your pocket.
the high for me initially is a slight boost followed very shortly after by couch lock.
Last edited by sidewing; 05-09-2012 at 09:44 AM.
heres some pics from this round that is close to being a wrap. these were taken on day 51 of flower.
the above is just some bagseed seeds ive had for years, i decided to pop one of them, it smells unbelievably good, like a fruity diesely kind of smell, not sure what it is, but unfortunately it did pop a few seeds itself, but the smell is so damn good it makes me want to keep popping more seeds of this until i find one that doesnt hermi, its more sativa dominant as you can probably tell from the bud growth, i topped and topped and topped and LST'd and did everything i could to keep the height down and she wasnt having any of it, still taller than anything else in the room.
this is the kens gdp, starting to fade and the purple tones are starting to come out
this is the mango og kush cross that i sprouted from seed, this is my 2nd flowering run with her, shes def a keeper. smells like mango with a touch of og kush.. flavor is real smooth and a hybrid of mango and og kush, and the growth is a hybrid also, she took traits from both all across the board.. the high is uplifting, but u can feel the indica in there as well.. great for depression, anxiety, muscle pain, and needing to get shit done.
im going to let these go either day 56 or 63, not sure.. take the tops, then give the lower buds another couple of weeks to fill out better. i was going to take a day 56 of the tops, but after looking at the pics i think i want to see the crystals a little more cloudy/amber. 63 will probably be the winner.
edit: just wanted to note, i live somewhere where it gets very hot during the summer and temps have been in the 90's for the last month of this grow.. the gdp is turning purple when the temps never drop below 70, and can get as high as 80 in the grow space.. i believe that cold does help turn any strain purple, but if u have the soil mixed correctly the natural colors of the genetics will show regardless of temperature.
also on another side note, the gdp and the mango og have a few seeds on them also, just a few.. i hope maybe that bagseed pollinated them, and the seeds are a cross, cuz damn the smell of that bagseed is killer, and its aggressive in the way it grows.. could be potentially an amazing cross on some of the seeds this round.
Last edited by sidewing; 05-18-2012 at 09:50 AM.
how much did this cost you? how many plants do u have in 7 gal pots? your recipe is enough for 12 maybe?
its hard to say how much it cost.. i buy the ammendments in bulk from a website groworganic dot com that is based here in california.. they are a regular organic gardening site so i feel comfortable ordering from them. id say something like 500 dollars for a few years worth of batches easily. i run about 5 cycles a year. the things i have to buy regularly are 2 bags of roots organic soil and about every few cycles a 5lb bag of happy frog bat guano cuz i cant find a 50lb bag of it anywhere. also have to buy worm castings every time i mix a batch, and xtreme mycorrhizal every few times. other things like the alfalfa meal, kelp, humic acid i just use the 5lb bag down to earth brand. i only run 4 plants under a single 1k, but the mix i use fills a black plastic garbage can about 4/5 of the way.. and when i take out enough soil for 4 plants, i usually have about 1/3 of the can left, so id say u should be able to have enough for 7 plants. maybe 8 maximum.
i just made some killer hash from this trim, fully melts/bubbles.. and looks like peanut brittle.. amazing stuff.
i traditionally do a dry trim, hang the whole plant, this time i just cut the tops and im giving the lower half an extra couple of weeks.. and trimmed em wet, and made bubble from it right away.. only the sugar leaves.. so the hash had no impurities whatsoever, the 160 bag that is usually the impurities was completely empty. i switched to a 4 bag bubblebag 1 gallon from the 5gallon i was running.. because now i can fit the 1gal paint container i use in the fridge and freezer so the water is super cold.. the water is like slushy when i run it through now.