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    Default Full organic Sour Grapes clone HPS and SCRoG

    Hey what's up y'all? Been goin at it for a lil while on my second grow. I have a semi-stealth cabinet with a sunburst convertible 250W ballasted hood that I'm currently running a 150W HPS bulb in. Sour Grapes clone was donated by a good friend of mine to get me jump-started on this grow. I took the clone home and immediately transplanted from the coco coir cup it was in to the 3 gallon 'dirt pot' with my custom soil mix I've been working at. Within a few days she started to show tell-tale signs of pulling out of a deficiency. Was a slight magnesium def. showing with purpling stems and leaf lightening in some areas.

    The water I feed her is Walmart spring water that starts out at 7.5 and I add usually 1/2 teaspoon GO Calmag+ to bring my gallon down to 6.5 - I had horrible results from using only distilled water last grow, and dealing with pH lockouts and all kinds of crap... so this is all still experimental phase.
    The soil I am using is Kellogg's Patio plus which is a very similar mix to the FFOF, it carried my last grow all the way into week 2 of flower straight from the bag. I added dolomite lime and azomite powder to the soil mix in appropriate amounts this time. I now have some FoxFarms Big Bloom and BioBizz biobloom for when things start getting to that point. Everything in my soil mix and nutrient-wise is full organic, no synthetics here whatsoever.
    I have just been watering when container is light, only about 3 times so far... and gave her a foliar spray the other night after lights out of some Epsom Salts mixture. Her stems have been slowly fading out the purpling and stripes and all new growth is looking great and green. My buddy who gave her to me is also working on the Mg def. himself and we're almost postive it was effects of the coir, since his that are in soil are legit.

    ..Anyways, I built a scrog screen for about $15 outta PVC, screws and 18ga wire.
    My box dimensions are 28"W x 36"H x 16" D, roughly 3.125 square feet and around 9 cubic feet of room.
    Screen height is roughly 12-13 inches from floor of cabinet and about 4 inches above soil.\
    150W HPS, temps are 72F at night (It's hot as hell here) and top out at 79F in the day. Perfect!
    She has been FIM'd once about a week ago and screen training has begun!
    I've had her for almost 3 weeks now. Growth is picking up and getting very noticable by the day! I am very excited and eager to put my new knowledge to the test.
    Ok, I'll shut up now and show you what's goin on.

    The day she came home
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    Day before the screen went up
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    The day the screen went up, and an overall shot of it.
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    And after some FIMing and training, here she is today! Gettin Bushy!
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    Nice man
    im planning on purchasing a 250w soon.
    Its not bad if you put a 150w bulb with a 250w
    Ballast?

    Also I think I might have some kind of lockout
    Or it just might be bugs.

    But in what way does the Epsom salt help?
    Thanks man and im excited to see
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    hey thanks... I'm assuming the ballast is safe, because i have the convertible model that can use both MH or HPS bulbs, and plus the guy i bought it from gave it to me with both bulbs.

    as far as lockouts or bugs there are none, as I mentioned earlier, my friend whom I got the clone from was having Magnesium deficiencies in almost all of his plants, and now with the soil she's in she's been recovering quite fast and growth has picked up to a steady daily pace now. all new growth is legit, with leaves looking healthy and green all the way through, but some of the older leaves are showing the lightened edges that are common with a Mg def. and I don't really expect them to change much cuz it looks like the damage has been done on them.
    Epsom salt is pure Magnesium sulfate and I didn't want to add any unnecessary stuff to the soil, especially something as touchy as magnesium, so I just foliar sprayed after the lights out for the leaves themselves to absorb magnesium and I would have to say it really worked the way others have claimed. on all new growth the leaves are full and rich in green color and not showing any signs of lockouts or deficiencies like they were when she first went into soil. My soil mix is very rich in nutrients and by adding the azomite i have added substantial amounts of trace minerals and micronutrients that most soils do not have. My water also has the Calmag+ and I pH every time I water with a digital pH pen. She's been fed at 6.5 so far and I have yet to measure runoff, but I am not concerned because the soil to begin with is pH buffered to 6.8 I believe and the lime I added helps stabilize the pH in the long run. Plus, this is a fully organic grow, so by feeding her correctly like I am, things should run fairly smooth because the microbial life takes over and does most of the work. I will eventually flush around the time i flip for flower, but only once, and if it needs it based on runoff measurements. The accumulation of salts is usually the reason to flush, as they lower the pH of soil, I've experienced that firsthand... but theoretically I have covered my bases with the lime in that area and it really shouldn't be a problem. for example, my last grow i used nothing but the plain soil from the bag - no lime or azomite - and my plants did great with no lockouts or deficiencies until about 2 weeks into flower... and then again, it was mainly my fault because I was using distilled water, which had a pH of about 5.5 and I had no clue about any of this stuff. I do a shitload of reading on here, especially when I run into issues. I tend to be OCD and quite the perfectionist when it comes to any problems I run into, because if I don't feel like I know what the problem is - it bugs me so bad I can't stop thinking about it until I either have a solution or a plan for a solution. sometimes this ends up keeping me up all night with 5 million tabs in my browser and 1,000 bookmarked pages. LOL but thanks for the reply, I type way too much, just be glad you're not here in person getting stoned with me I wouldn't ever shut the fuck up. HAHA!
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    Looks good. How wide are the squares in your screen?

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    thanks for stopping by! they are roughly 2x2 inches using 18 gauge wire
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    Just posting a quick update to show where she's at so far. I'm planning to keep updating every weekend or so, just to keep things rolling
    She seems to be pulling out of the deficiency and looking better by the day.
    here she is a few hours before lights out...
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    copper is not a good materiel for screen. plants shy away from copper. see: "bonsai"
    http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Organic-Re...made_vq204.htm

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    I am using 18 gauge wire that is coated in red rubber. I didn't want anything metallic touching the plant, water and metal usually don't go together. I'm a beginner, but not that naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredder420 View Post
    I am using 18 gauge wire that is coated in red rubber. I didn't want anything metallic touching the plant, water and metal usually don't go together. I'm a beginner, but not that naive.
    cool............looked like Cu to these old eyes.
    http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Organic-Re...made_vq204.htm

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