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12-20-2011, 10:56 PM
Potted the 7 seeds. 5had already cracked
12-21-2011, 04:08 PM
1 of the 7 are showing above soil.
They're all getting fed the same, not sure why the first one has turned so yellow. At first I thought it was too close to the light so I put more distance on it but no improvement. They're all same strain and all getting fed the same.
My home made party cup airpot
12-21-2011, 06:46 PM
Apparently I was wrong. No plant up yet. Watered the 4 that are up. Got my light baffle fitted in properly now. Still some light through the z channel but I don't think its too bad.
Using these methods I started out a garden full of vegetables. Yet keep seeming to screw up with this plant. It's driving me nuts
12-22-2011, 03:47 PM
That yellowing plant,
How old is it? and have you feed it yet? Like 1/2 strength nutrient mix?
also I noticed that purple in the center of your new growth on the one seedling...I've seen that happen to a few of mine in the past. I never really linked it to one thing, like under/over feeding or say environmental issues, ex: temps and humidity...but I do know that its a sign of something wrong. As every plant that shown that in my grow, had stunted growth and took time to recover.
So maybe someone can elaborate for me and you , and can identify what that is..
When it happened to me I thought it was from things being too cold. I was in hydro and My rez temp wa falling below 50 degrees also my ambient air was cold too. Also seen it before with clones and seedlings but never figured out why....I doubt its genetics....
Last edited by BBYY; 12-22-2011 at 03:54 PM.
12-22-2011, 06:39 PM
It's probably around 10 days old. Started with 1/4 strength for a couple of days then 1/2 strength. They're in coco which has no nutrient.
I'll have to look closer for the purple color, I hadn't noticed. My problem isn't cold as my place stays warmer than I'd like. I've managed to keep it down lately though.
The last 7 seeds I put in, the shells had cracked but the root had not extended. So far nothing has popped up, hopefully I didn't screw up yet again. I'm going to be bald before too long
12-23-2011, 03:38 AM
I was also told no nutrients at all for atleast a week or so. It could be possibly burnt. You dont notice in the center of the one plant that purple color? I see it in the pic that you updated.. Not trying to scare ya or nothing, These little things usually dont kill plants unless they are not fixed.
12-23-2011, 07:36 AM
Hey Voidling how's it going. What BBYY said. Straight up water with zero nutes is what you need for your seedlings for the first couple of weeks. Works fine for Mother Nature. Also the original stock that I made the Romulan seeds from was a few years old, not the freshest beans in the world. Pick out a few beans to pop that you have a lot of before you do the BB and see how those do. BB seeds are a little harder to come by lol. The eagle will take another trip your way with some more Roms.
Couple of shitty days here man, hope your doing ok
12-23-2011, 02:53 PM
I'd waited a week or two before any nutes. The difference is that I've got coco and not soil, coco has no nutrients in it while the soil does. I always thought that soil growers didn't add nutes for several weeks because the soil has them. I could be wrong, I'll research more.
Sounds like I definitely need to seed out from the bb plants just to be safe. Would buying some more seeds from the breeder and letting them breed out help any or should I be good with the 6?
Whatever the eagle has too much of, I'm apparently a seed and plant killer when it comes to weeds. I still can't believe I did so well with all the veggie plants but so horrible with this. I had so many plants started I had to give them away last spring (veggies that is)
They did pop so it's not a seed issue, just having trouble getting the plants up and going. I'm assuming its me and not something with old stock. I'll see what I have second most abundant when ever I have room next.
I went to walmart for groceries and soil but the parking lot was packed and I can't deal with that many people and the holiday together so I'll starve for a few days before going back.
In the pics I see a purplish but never noticed on my own in photos or pics. Temps dropped to 63 the other day I think. Maybe that was too cold. I have to regulate my room temp with opening and shutting of windows so when I'm away or asleep it can get to be too much one way or the other.
What's going on with you HC? Sorry to hear that.
12-23-2011, 09:50 PM
I got some NYC Diesel seeds Im willing to send if you need a few extra to try out.
I know where your confusions coming from, but most soil growers try not to get soil loaded with nutrients in them because its easier to control feedings when you know how much your putting in and knowing you have a zero baseline to go off of. Then there is organic growers who's soil will have heavy nutrients in them, sometimes they still deal with burnt seedlings and are required to start seedlings in a seedling mix with far less composted material in it to prevent burning. But you are right a good organic soil mix should last weeks when first starting out before requiring a feeding.... I always just let the plant tell me when it needs food. Once the seedlings turn a bit yellow, its asking for food. In your case, they should last in the coco on regular water for atleast 10-14 days, and then you will notice they will start to get a light lime green color...Then you can start on a light feeding and withing days they will living up and explode. One thing that you should be watching out for is the PH of the water your putting in, The downfall to coco/soil is that most good soil does have added lime or other ph buffers in it, your coco will not, have you figured out the PH yet of your tap water? If that is what your using...
lettme know if you would like the diesel seeds and if so pm me a place to send them...
Oh and about the purple i mentioned, I talked it over with dizzlefrost on the phone and he encountered it too and seems it could be nutrient related, but still dunno if its from under or over feeding. I cant find nothing on it in my books.. But still its nothing critical Good luck and keep us posted!
12-23-2011, 10:47 PM
You're right, my research and interest in soil was the organic type and what I've seen of the other was people talking about miracle grow with slow release nutes. Vermiculture is on my projects list. So many projects.
Anyway... I looked up AskEd's coco guide on lawntown forum as it was written up real well. He said wait until the third set of leaves before feeding, so was definitely feeding too soon. Three of them took it real well though, but now I know my mistake. I'll definitely hold off on watering them this time.
The one that's doing horrible was yellow and seemed to be an N deficiency to me. Read in another thread on coco + lucas formula that it could be excess K. Unfortunately I have maxibloom and can't change the formula. Hopefully waiting longer before feeding fixes the problem as the other 3 are good.
I do not have a ph meter yet. I got my TDS + Temp meter in the other day. I have been using gallon jugs of RO water from Walmart from the most part since I don't know the ph of the tap water. Though I have used tap water too I'll stick with jugs from now on. I need to get some lime to add to the coco.
At least two of the plants seem to have dark nearly purple stems. Hard to tell as I blind myself everytime I look in there, really need to make a fixture to reflect more light back down.