Lance Armstrong stripped of all 7 Tour de France titles, banned for life

The others guys were not so far behind him so something makes me think he wasn't the only cheater

Not the only cheater but the biggest cheater no doubt..never liked this phony douche and glad he was exposed..most people with a little common sense have known for years this guy was a cheater and a phony asshole....I love that opening like by George Carlin "Let me start off by saying - Fuck Lance Armstrong"

I don't have a dog in this fight, however, as a dude who appreciates discipline, dedication, and ability, this shit just blows my fucking mind.

This motherfucker won one of THE, if not THE, most challenging and competitive events in all of sports....not once, but SEVEN FUCKING TIMES. Seven. Drugs can enhance performance and ability, but they can't REPLACE it, and the fact that that skinny motherfucker won that shit SEVEN times proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the reason Lance Armstrong won the tour seven times is because of Lance Armstrong, NOT some mystery "dope" that NOBODY could detect throughout the seven year run he had on the tour.

This shit is fucking ludicrous, and the fact that it comes YEARS after the dude retired makes it more so.

I didn't give a fuck about cycling before, and I still don't, but this attack on Armstrong has lowered my opinion of cycling to new levels.

Fuck those motherfuckers.

If you simply Google "list cyclist found cheating" it's absolutely crazy basically every pro is eventually found cheating

Probably the same % of cheats in baseball and track n field...look at all of a sudden the jamacians are the fastest humans on the planet almost overnight ...doping makes a huge impact and turns average to well above average and good to great and very good to amazing..look at barry bonds he hit what 78 homers in the second biggest ballpark in the majors and was walked a a lot that year...if he sees more pitches he could have hit 100 plus that year...and that is an old man juicing ...if he took em in his prime the numbers get more sicker....

Lance Armstrong didn't fail any test but they apparently find he managed a way around the test system to avoid failure

Money and corruption are he avoided positive tests...and had blood transfusions always available world wide...and he did fail a couple tests even though went through great lengths to avoid it.

Originally Posted by Wilksey

I don't have a dog in this fight, however, as a dude who appreciates discipline, dedication, and ability, this shit just blows my fucking mind.

This motherfucker won one of THE, if not THE, most challenging and competitive events in all of sports....not once, but SEVEN FUCKING TIMES. Seven. Drugs can enhance performance and ability, but they can't REPLACE it, and the fact that that skinny motherfucker won that shit SEVEN times proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the reason Lance Armstrong won the tour seven times is because of Lance Armstrong, NOT some mystery "dope" that NOBODY could detect throughout the seven year run he had on the tour.

This shit is fucking ludicrous, and the fact that it comes YEARS after the dude retired makes it more so.

I didn't give a fuck about cycling before, and I still don't, but this attack on Armstrong has lowered my opinion of cycling to new levels.

Fuck those motherfuckers.

i agree with that to an extent, but no one is claiming that lance armstrong isn't one hell of a cyclist. the beef is that he was compared to other amazing cyclists and set records and won awards that are typically attributed solely to hard work and genetics. doping adds a third dimension to the playing field, and the achievement gap between 2 otherwise equal athletes can be enormous if one of them is doping.

however, the frequency with which they discover doping cyclists calls into question the playing field of that sport itself. after a certain percentage of winning cyclists are discovered to be dopers, the argument can be made that the playing field is in fact even. the problem is that eventually we have no yardstick to measure genuine athletic ability as opposed to athletic ability+doping. a great deal of the "sport" of it is the amazing athleticism. that gets diluted when we start expecting regular men to hit targets set by dopers.