Meditation... - Page 6

jackonthebox · #51 10-08-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dum

I could be completely wrong about ADD but it sounds like it could make meditation imposible if it's so sever that you can't read and listen to someone speak without losing both. Garden Knowm, I would take you a lot more serius if you didn't post "LOL" after every sentence. I think you nearly done something imposible, explain how and what happens during meditation. I like what you said about the snake in the room early on. Drew, I think that you did an excelent job of expaining your thoughts, somthing that is imposible for me to do. I have some questions about meditation; do you let your mind think of whatever it wants to think about or do you think about absoloutly nothing? Do you split your consince in two and think of both? Which one are you in control of an which are you observing? if there is nothing to compare everything to then does the other half of the consince really exist? did I just answer my firs question?

you must focus. you're thoughts will happen..because that's just your brain working, but focus your attention to your breathing. with practice and concentration, you become less distracted by the thoughts that the brain throws around.

dum · #52 10-08-2008, 11:45 PM

It sounds like jogging is a way easier way to meditate. All I'm thinking about then is breathing and nothing else.

Garden Knowm · #53 10-14-2008, 12:03 AM

Hi Blonddie

Yes meditation is very confusing.. because it can not be comprehended by the mind...

It is actually not cionfusing but rther impossible for the ind to understand... IMPOSSIBLE...

the mind can POINT at the UNKNOWN... but it can not go there...

Human beings have a mind that is strictly a doing machine.. The mind can say " I am doing nothing" but that is a lie.. it is self deception.. because even when the mind says it is doing "nothing" it is actually IDENTIFYING with "doing nothing..." and this in it self is doing something..

Meditation is "doing nothing" and when we do nothing we can actually SEE, WITNESS, the mind rather than react to or identify with the mind..

Imagine that for a second... seeing the mind rather than being the mind.. the implications are terrifying to the ego... IT means that YOU are not who you think you are.. it means that it is impossible to actually KNOW anything.... yes this is true..

This is why people don't meditate... they are scared... but really, there is nothing to be afraid of... The unknown is soooooo safe.... there is complete surrender.. and power and love move freely.... infinite power... but I digress..

This process of watching the mind (meditating) can only be done ONE way...

There are many ways that people stumble upon medititaion.. by using mantras, physical activity, drugs, art, listening etc.. these are all doorways into a meditative state

But there is only ONE way to actually MASTER meditation.. or watching the mind... its is through breathing... this is the method the that the BUddha used and most likely the method Jesus used.

You can start meditating by dabbling in sensory observation.. LISTENING and doing nothing else for 10 minutes a day... and then transfer that concentration to your breath... don't control your breath.. just WATCH, observe your breath.. eventually you will get a glimpse of the stillness.. the unknown

Using your sensory perception in prolonged focused practice, helps cultivate awareness... some people call this meditation... I DON't... it is only the pre game warm up

Yoga and Ti_chi are great pregame warm up practices.. to actually meditating..

Actually becoming so aware of breath and lung contraction that one shifts their awareness out of the mind and into the breath... into the world of prana..

This may sound confusing but it is simple.. the probnlem comes with being disciplined enough to stay focused on the breath...

during this journey, the mind will do everything it can to make noise and distract YOU from becoming your self.. from becoming free from the shaclkles of thought...

The very best way available to my knowledge is through Vipassan practice.

Once you awaken, you will see that everything the mind believes is only relatively true.. and nothing the mind can concoct or observe is absolutely true.. crossing this bridge is AMAZING... but the journey never ends... at least not from where I can see...

Vipassana Meditation Website

Once one realizes the true definition of meditation, one also realizes that they are always meditiating and there is nothing else to do here on planet MAMA besides mediate..

iloveyou

Can you do anything that is not a reaction to a thought?

enter ZEN from here!

iloveyou

i also recommend Eckhart tolle.. he is a living master, a grown child and a great gift to the planet..

SriYogananda · #54 10-16-2008, 03:59 AM

I've been a meditator for about ten years and previously kept meditation and weed well apart because I thought the two should be incompatible . Now I'm glad to say that, with a bit of experimentation, it's helping a lot

Anyone read Cannabis & Meditation by Simon Jackson (this is something I think you should read OP)? Very good book on the subject that's helped me a lot - but surely there must be other books talking about the same thing? Anyone?

Sy

Garden Knowm · #55 10-17-2008, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SriYogananda

I've been a meditator for about ten years and previously kept meditation and weed well apart because I thought the two should be incompatible . Now I'm glad to say that, with a bit of experimentation, it's helping a lot

Anyone read Cannabis & Meditation by Simon Jackson (this is something I think you should read OP)? Very good book on the subject that's helped me a lot - but surely there must be other books talking about the same thing? Anyone?

Sy

will check out that book...

buffalosoulja · #56 10-17-2008, 07:35 AM

Wow that was a good read garden, very informative. I have been searching for a method that would work, you not only explained one, you also explained how it work. +rep. thanx