[quote=HotNSexyMILF;985468]The comment about making sure to ask questions is important- but it is also important to take times to let yourself be guided wherever you're taken.

I suggest you look into torrenting the hemi-sync series.. this used in conjunction with salvia can be paradigm shattering.

Training oneself to meditate with the hemi-sync without the use of 'helper substances' is also helpful. You should be able to reach that astral plane without any help tho it takes much practice/ ability to quite yourself...

Thank you for not abusing a magickal substance like salvia- sounds as if your experiences from salvia have set your feet on the path.. I only hope you continue on it.[/quote


Hey Milf...glad you posted. If you would like to go more into torrenting the hemi-sync series i think that would be great. I have been doing a lot of research on meditation. I have also been meditating for more than 4 hours for the last 3 days. My whole life is changing right before my very eyes. I felt so sheltered or rather confined by my knowledge of who i am and what this world is. In the last month, i have found that every answer that i have been seeking my entire life was within me the entire time. I had a very intense dream from mediation last night. I was told i can not talk about it in detail. This entity that i speak to every time....i need help finding out who or what he is. He told me that every one person has to come to the answers by themselves....and they can only do this when it is thier time or more importantly...when they seek it...and then it is his/her job...to help them seek out the answer they seek....have you encountered him/her yet? I have done so with and without salvia now...

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Glad to see you here. Yes, my expierence with Salvia has been pretty intense. My friends that i talk to about this ....well, they wont go near the stuff....says it sounds a little to intense for them...I believe salvia to be a substance which well help you break on through to the other side. After the first time you break through..well, even non believers (like i used to be) will believe in a higher power. I think that this higher power can not be limited to one name (god, buddah, etc.) but in reading parts of the bible lately...i have found that there are definately lessons to be learned. I believe that these books are symbolic and can help you understand...but i dont believe they should be taken literally....if you take it too literally i think you will find yourself running around with a bible telling everyone they are going to hell...and then you have in essensce closed you mind completely and i dont believe that the supernatural desires that at all.

John...if you ask me...it boils down to this.

If you are looking for answers..you should not rely on a drug to give them to you....you need to look inside yourself to find out what things are and how you need to affect them. Salvia, is only a gateway that will help you make contact with the one with the answers. If you want answers, first look inside yourself...then light up a bowl of some salvia 20x... you may not get your answers immediately...but it will help point you in the right direction. Just remember to smoke salvia...as a humbled part of the universe. Ask as many questions you want to....and dont be scared of the answers. Good and bad will no longer be "good and bad" simply things happen for a reason....the more seeds of yourself that you spread...either by kindness or other kinds of help...the more you will add positive things to this world. If we all continue to add positive things...there will never be an "armagedden" like they talk about in the bible. Things simply live and die.....and each should have an affect on you....john, simply because they are you...that is the ultimate answer.

"A world can only be non tolerable if your intentions of seeking the truth were not in the right place to begin with" -growinfo

John, salvia opened a whole new world that i love. It is a world that i can help (for better or worse), it is a world that is me.

Does that help you at all?

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then again, salvia is just another mind altering substance... what your seeing, is your imagination... its what YOU want to see...

I kind of dont believe it takes you ANYWHERE besides the confines of your mind and depends on how vast your imagination is. I dont believe you will find any answers through intoxication. Only through sober and natural self.

Salvia (from what i believe) just opened your imagination a bit, and you saw what you wanted... and now as you meditate, you think of that memory, and you manifest more things.

Remember, your life will change when you want it to, it will change when you believe it has.

This is what 'I' believe, when it comes to mind altering substances... maybe it blocks the sober self, to let you enter the dream state, and there you can open up and self discipline.

For me, the best way to enlighten your self, to open your mind to the true human being is through being sober, no intoxication will show you the truth.

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I have smoked salvia maybe 20 times in the last 5 years, potency ranging from 5x to 40x. I usually get stoned before I start, after a couple very scary experiences I theorized that you have to be in a good mood or you run a high risk of a bad time. That may have a lot to do with my personality, although most people I know that have tried it don't feel like doing it again. But I adore a psychedelic experience even if its frightening.

I have had many different types of experiences, but my most memorable was over at my friends house. Sitting in his room, with my back against a wall I took a monster rip of what was supposedly 5x, that came free when I ordered morning glory seeds off Iamshaman.

Words really fail to describe it, but I almost immediately feel this pull, like 10x gravity on my body, I focused on that and realized I could make the force pull on me from different directions if I chose to. After I found a comfortable angle I looked around the room, my friend got up to go to the bathroom and closed the door.

I felt really amazing until I realized that I had no idea what humans were. This is the hardest part to explain to people, I understood that I was some sort of animal, like a monkey but more evolved and I knew I was called a human, but I didn't remember what I looked like or what I was doing, how I found myself in the strange place. I looked around, even when my friend came back and I saw a human I still didn't understand what we were. I was some sort of creature that didn't know its purpose, is this what my species does? sits in rooms? Just existing felt very strange to me, like it was a brand new thing and I didn't know the score yet.

I closed my eyes, ignoring what little stimuli there was and tried to understand. Right away I felt like I was being sucked apart, I was in an endless loop of energy and I felt my soul, spirit, life force w/e you want to call it, ripped out of me. I sensed it had enough of me wasting its time, it was going to move on, possibly even to die. As soon as that happened, I felt a new, once again for lack of a better term, soul, enter me. It was like there were lots of them lined up ready to go, to take over my body when the old ones get tired. Because I was aware of it happening, this new soul felt foreign and I sensed that it dreaded having to be part of me, it was now trapped and wanted horribly to get out. It was like the only reason I have a soul at all is because of this things obligation, I sensed it knew what it was in for and felt sorry for it.

This seemed very strange even for a trip, because it felt like something really happened to me, something not so good. I tried to focus and see if my old spirit would come back to me, but it was clear it had moved on, and soon I began to sober up. I sat there thinking about it for a half hour before I said anything, I tried to explain the "I forgot what people are" thing to my friend and he seemed to understand a little, I didn't mention my soul being replaced cause it made me uncomfortable talking about it. Am I really such a lousy person that my soul would abandon me?

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Notice: These are my own beliefs- I am not pushing them onto anyone here, nor am I trying to convince anyone of anything.

Maybe it is not that your soul abandoned you- but that you have finally merged with your soul...

In my own journey threw spirituality I came to a realization like you are describing. The way I've best to come identify the occurrence is the fact that as humans we think with our brain- so we we think "This is ME. This is what I want to do. This is how I feel." But the fact is that THIS is not you at all. THIS is your animal. This is your transport in this dimension, in this lifetime. This is nothing but the 'character' you choose to play in this now. The dialog in your head constantly going is rarely the true YOU.

I felt a similar feeling- of a 'loss' of something inside as I awakened.. I realized it was not that I lost it.. but that I was truly starting to identify FROM my soul, instead of always looking up at it and identifying myself as separate from it.

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well put hotnsexy. I personally think that as humans the only job we really have and the the most important thing in our lives is spirituality. I started out thinking this was being religious, going to church accepting christ... then found out other religious models exist, and thought that maybe accepting them all equally would do it. later through meditation i discovered telepathy and telepathic communication. so instead of going to church i could 'tune in' to psychedellic mass or world consiousness. discovering new abilities or how far it really goes is my new spiritual goal. as blonddie says its all your imagination i used to believe. now its more along the lines of our imagination, some points it becomes I REALLY DONT THINK IM IMAGINing this. For example when people start manipulating the physical world with their spiritual minds, this actual makes the bridge between this world and that one. as milf said, becoming one with your soul is what happens, and when you live most your life as a spiritually devoid robot most your life getting in touch with your pain (lack of spirituallity) at first will seem bad. But as said in the tebettan book of the dead there are different worlds or stages on must travel through to get to 'heaven' hell is one of the pre stages. spiritual enlightenment isnt something you just one day wake up and say hey here i am. its more like growing weed. you plant a seed and have to care for it for a a long time before you get bud!

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are.

You can believe whatever you want about whatever you want... But it seem you want some feedback.
Salvia will loosen up that assemblage point right up, start to show you some stuff that YOU can actually do. Break free that energy for a little and take you on a ride through the energy centers. Basically energy gets stuck and congested in your body and parts of your life can shut off/on or become chaotic...etc. And psychedelics are good for removing these.... BUT one can start to associate some kind of enlightenment with these ethogens. And once that association is made, it will become harder to find in your non-trippin days.

But personally, seeing as I have had many experiences with MYSELF that cripple the effects psychedelics have, I will immediately tell you that Its not salvia that is doing that stuff, its you.

That stuff you were writting..etc could be from a past life..... Channeled.... programmed.. or something else. It is up to you if you feel called to it, to find out.

Do you want to re harmonize your life and reawaken your spirituality. Or do you want to be told what to do and how to feel all the time by society. Both can be done in any situation. Both are great options and can be thoroughly enjoyed!

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from everything that i am experiencing...this question actually seems the most logical

"Do you want to re harmonize your life and reawaken your spirituality. Or do you want to be told what to do and how to feel all the time by society"

You are right on it...well said.

The spiritual world...its a decision....a path....destiny(if you will)

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You may want to look into Vipassanna meditation. It is one facet of Buddhist practice that focuses on "mindfulness" and being completely aware of your mental and emotional state. It teaches you to step back and just watch the things that make "you" are really very loosely constructed. It's a deeply productive experience.

You also occasionally encounter the experience blonddie mentioned, e.g. that feeling of no gravity, of a white light above your head, perfect harmony. The feeling is spectacular and wonderful. But the core of vipassanna meditation is to get rid of these worldly wants. That includes the feeling of perfect harmony.

Basically, enjoy it when it comes, but if you 'want' it, your life will become stressful and your emotions will take over to a degree.

There's a book called "Mindfulness in plain english" that I HIGHLY recommend: Amazon.com: Mindfulness in Plain English: Henepola Gunaratana: Books

Anyway, good luck on your search. I'd love to be informed of any journey's you experience.

You are completely correct imo. Keep checking back...i had a pretty interesting experience that i am going to write down as soon as i can figure it out. Think i might have saw what happens when we die...kinda wierd..dont know how to completely describe yet...but i will keep you posted

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