Karma, Karma, Karma, Konfusion

email468 · #1 04-21-2008, 12:03 PM

Hey RIU'ers!

As you may know from some of my other posts, I am highly skeptical of religions, pseudoscience, and other unsubstantiated claims.

I have been seeing a few posts saying things like ...
karma is a bitch!
don't worry - karma will catch up with them
karma is real and what comes around goes around

Which got me thinking....
am i to understand that everyone gets what they deserve according to this karma system? and if it isn't obvious what that person did to deserve bad (or good) karma then the event creating said karma most likely occurred in a past life?

So anytime something bad happens to someone - they deserved it?

i'm sorry but this system leaves me with a sickening feeling in my stomach and was hoping someone who believes this could explain how this is any kind of justice.... any karma believers that want to convince me that - if it does exist (which I don't believe) it is a good thing?

ORECAL · #2 04-21-2008, 12:08 PM

email, your great man. always questioning and learning.... i love it.

can't wait to see what people have to say on this. I imagine that you'll either get lots of people that fight for karma

OR

nobody can back up Karma, meaning that nobody can tell you why... kinda like how every religion can't tell you why they believe what they do, it's just what they know.

I think in the case of Karma, it's just like religion, although it is not really a formal religion, one can follow Karma like a religion, but it's more tied to the golden rule "due unto others as you would have them due unto you."

ALX420 · #3 04-21-2008, 12:13 PM

dont think of karma as a negative thing. if you see it as a positive influence in your life it will be positive.

ORECAL · #4 04-21-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ALX420

dont think of karma as a negative thing. if you see it as a positive influence in your life it will be positive.

but Karma is not a one way street. it's intended use is both ways, positive and negative......

Seamaiden · #5 04-21-2008, 12:25 PM

On one hand, I hold onto the entire concept of Kharma, almost desperately, because I want to believe that those who do bad things will get their "just desserts" just as I desperately hope that good people will be rewarded. However, the reality of things is that Kharma doesn't mean a fucking thing. Bad people still get away with murder, good people still get spanked, all for no obvious reason(s). Chaos is the order of the day, and it's all really rather random.

That being said, I firmly hold to the truth of Joseph Campbell's ideas about the role of religion.

ALX420 · #6 04-21-2008, 12:35 PM

i believe that it is as straight forward as feeling good=being good. but i am in no way a religious believer in karma. just sharing my views.

ORECAL · #7 04-21-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ALX420

i believe that it is as straight forward as feeling good=being good. but i am in no way a religious believer in karma. just sharing my views.

i get that..... makes sense. I wasn't trying to put you down or anything. hope theres no hard feelings.

LoudBlunts · #8 04-21-2008, 12:44 PM

i dont think its the victim that is actually wishing the karma.

its the conscience(sp)? of the person doing the wrong doing?

I bet money Karma, Irony, & Guilty Conscience stay in the same house.

ALX420 · #9 04-21-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ORECAL

i get that..... makes sense. I wasn't trying to put you down or anything. hope theres no hard feelings.

none at all.

ORECAL · #10 04-21-2008, 12:47 PM

good.

loudblunts.... I think you might be on to something there. that maybe it's each individual person that creates their own Karma. like If i go and rob somebody, it's my own concious that will end up getting me robbed sometime in the future.