Exactly. You sir are smarter than a christian cult follower.

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y thank you,thats cus im a christian cult leader

the mass suicide is goin to soon take place,there will be dead bodies everywhere. the stench is goin to smell soo so good

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I'm sorry...the gospels you quoted are all part of the bible.Therefore, not real.
From the Smithsonian letter, here is an excerpt which sums up how they feel about the bible and its historical accuracy.
"The Biblical writers did not pretend they were giving a complete history; instead they constantly refer us to other sources for full historical details, sources such as "The Annals of the Kings of Judah" (or Israel). It is therefore not possible to try to "prove" the Bible by means of checking its historical or scientific accuracy. The only "proof" to which it can be subjected is this: Does it correctly portray the God-human relationship? In the best analysis, the Bible is a religious book, not an historical document."
And the national geographic link is a book they're selling on the visual history of the bible.Says nothing about them believing it to be historically accurate.
As for my assumption regarding your hallucinogenic experience, it wasn't.You said Christ was revealed to you through tripping, in a nutshell.

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<shrug>you assume too much</shrug>

smithsonian, national geographic are a good source for references, they like me enjoy studying the bible looks like good company to me.


spend a little time on the national geographic site and you'll see quickly what the think of the validity of the bible.

sigh.

i never said i was hallucinating. please don't misrepresent what i've said.

i said i was in the spirit realm.

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what evidence exactly do you have that jesus died and rose from the dead?


1. - the eye witness accounts, historical documentation from the different institutions (which I've named already) and archeological digs, plus i studied law and i have peace officer status (don't be alarmed, i'm not a policeman but a fireman, we go through some of the same training as police, hey - you asked ) so became familiar with evidence

2. - experientially, because the records seemed to be correct I still did not believe them for a long time. it wasn't until through the use of peyote and lots of lsd the spirit realm was revealed to me all too convincingly, over & over again. it was in this realm i met christ (the same guy who died and resurrected spoken of in the bible)

put the two together and he (christ) has been indelibly etched into my life experiences - i'm not the only one who has experienced this, read a few posts up

i might add, richard "rick" griffin used to airbrush surfboards in our town many moons ago and he had a conversion experience that left a lot of us thinking he had gone off the deep end until it started happening to us

btw, for the record, i'm not hearing anything new here, i thought the same way

if you're familiar with higher criticism they use some of the same arguments as some here, saying the biblical books were incorrect, it was taught in colleges, until higher criticism was disproved through archeology and stylistic studies (study of writing styles)
I don't assume anything.I'm pointing out the facts.Here is your post in which you say the spirit realm was revealed to you through lsd and peyote. Therefore, you were hallucinating, cuz that's what those drugs make you do.I don't have to twist anyone's words to make a point. You can believe what you want.But no references you've posted are based in fact.The bible is not fact, it's religious fiction, and one of your links even said so.Sorry to seem like I'm being mean,but it is what it is.

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sigh & shrug

you post way too fast which tells me a lot about you

read carefully through my posts and you'll see I said that this spirit realm is also triggered by sunsets, love, travel, prayer, coffee, cannabis...

it is true peyote & lsd can make one hallucinate but they also open doors of the conscience mind & reveal spiritual things

if you are familiar with john mack's work (harvard university) he says there are many ways to get to a spiritual realm, andrew weil says this also and uses the example of meditation

Now who's assuming? I post fast because I'm smart, and I can read a lot very quickly.
Notice how, when different folks enter the spiritual realm,they see different things?That's because it's all interpreted by YOU,the individual. YOU are your own god. But you'll never believe me,and you'll continue to say your way is THE way.And you'll continue to say that the bible verifies this...but lets think of it this way:

L. Ron Hubbard wrote Dianetics. He believes there are aliens living in you and you must get them out using some sort of meter,and some ritual bullshit until you become the alien that you are, or thetan,blah, blah, all logical people laugh,the nuts make it a religion.
The Bible was written by one or more unknown authors, most certainly men of their times.The Bible states than an invisible space man in the sky created the earth and everything on it in six thousand years,sacrificed a son because we were so sinful he was gonna kill us, but instead decided it was quicker to kill Jr.,then bring him back, (and take him to heaven without any evidence of him actually being real),and we all get to burn forever if we don't agree.But he loves us. All the logical people laugh, and the nuts make it a religion.

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miss stoney,dont you look at the tags? appearantly you wasting away by talkin the same nonscense over and over to the same person. take a look at the tags girl and then go make yourself some tea

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Ah.I see now.Once again, satan, you give me knowledge.Why does he get mutiple accounts?

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everyone hears voices in their heads,some people need the feeling of wholeness and completion. some need to fulfill the problems that they create. they need to complete the problem by presenting it to the table, and on that table, you have a feast of bullshit and lies. the voices are feeding you the shit that you read. if you dont eat then the feast will go to "waste" and decay,soon that garbage will be forgotten about and never seen again. what do the voices inside your head say?

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