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Old 04-02-2008, 11:15 AM
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Second, shamegame, apparently when you read the piece you missed that the author relies on facts to make his points, not logic or philosophy. For instance, some of the facts noted, but not limited to, are:

Fact: Everything we know about Jesus is hearsay
Fact: Jesus didn't exhibit any knowledge of the natural world
Fact: Hindis, Muslims and Budhists don't believe Jesus was the son of God
Fact: The Christian god would have to cast judgment on people at the rate of almost two people per second
Fact: The Christian god cannot make himself visible in the here and now, in realtime, for everyone's eyes to see
Fact: The only evidence for the Christian god is supposedly some people who thousands of years ago supposedly heard a voice.

No logic or philosophy needed!
I understand what the author was saying ( and sometimes trying to say ). But honestly, the article reads as if it was written by a 14 year old. And look at the web page it's on. It looks like " my first website ". And this is supposedly " burning up the internet " ?...and has " once and for all debunked " Christianity ? It does make the obvious points though. My comment about the logic and philosophy classes was aimed more at the way the article was written as opposed to the content.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:06 PM
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This article is ridiculously poorly written. No it does not bring up valid points at all. I'm not a bible swinger, but that book has NEVER been proven wrong. The bible has foreshadows things like Tv's and other pieces of technology that wasn't even close to existing at the time it was written.

A valid point that contradicts Christianity would be something a scientist has to say, for example: The universe is still expanding and we can monitor its growth.

That true statement refers more to the theory of the "Big Bang" instead of Creationism.

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I've got news for everyone. Just the one point alone that the piece makes, that Jesus exhibited zero knowledge of the natural world, is the absolute knockout blow to any notion that Jesus was the son of a supreme being that created the universe and all life. Particularly when one considers that Jesus and the being were supposedly one in the same. That's like saying that the being who created the natural world didn't know a damn thing about what in the hell it was that he created. Yeah, right!

Any intelligent person (I repeat, any intelligent person) would know that Jesus' followers would've had questions for him about the natural world if they truly believed he was the son of the being that created it. So, any intelligent person would know, therefore, that it's a very valid point to make that Jesus had zero knowledge of the natural world. The absolute knockout blow!!!
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:21 AM
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Give us some solid evidence that jesus diddnt exist or even that he wasnt the son of God. I dont have to see to believe but i will need some evidence in the contrary to not
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Give me some solid evidence that Zeus, Quetzalcoatl, aliens, bigfoot, and the Loch Ness monster don't exist.

I don't have to see to believe but I will need some evidence in the contrary to not.
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I think there are aliens too, big foots maybe zeus yeah right and loch ness fuck no
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You take my point. Why should we assume the less probable case by default? Prove to me that Christ was divine. Proof--mind you--not fairy tales. We can prove the age of the planet.
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i didnt read the article cuz me not like dem reeding tings 2 much. but may god bless!!!!
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See i dont have to prove because i have faith that is why it is up to you sceptcs to prove. My proof is simple me and you, explain humans and animals and how they got here. I can say for a fact that there is no solid scientific explanation for humans so how can they debunk God. You are way off base with this one and there is no argument here because either way you have no solid facts to prove God doesnt exist or how this earth got here.
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You don't see the similarities? Or the contradiction? You want me to disprove the existence of your imaginary friend.

Humans and animals evolved from other, earlier animals, metazoa, protozoa, etc. There is a scientific theory for how we got here: the Big Bang and evolution.

We do have evidence that supports those theories. Now, that doesn't mean that God didn't create the universe in which those things took place, or didn't set them into motion.

God isn't something you prove or disprove. God is something that you believe, or you don't. However, to declare that God exists unless God can be disproved is both ignorant and arrogant--arrogant both in that it assumes the divine is comprehensible to science, and that otherwise scientific knowledge is worthless.

You're the one who's way off base. It's possible to be both thoughtful and religious but, as usual, this thread demonstrates the rarity of that combination in this day and age. It's a pity, because that used to be the rule and not the exception.
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