Christianity has been debunked once and for all - Page 22

babylonburn · #**211** 05-24-2008, 08:00 PM

christianism is a law....they say lord is dead...ii say you cant take life from the life giver...earth is the lord...

Rocky Mountain High · #**212** 05-25-2008, 09:30 AM

Zen master,

I'm a logical person and there is no PROOF that's why it's called FAITH. You CHOOSE to have it. I CHOOSE not too and all you did was further the article. I'm not trying to get you to NOT BELIEVE so why are you trying to get me to BELIEVE?

I'm not forcing my views down your throat but, just like the article says, you and Christians continually try to push down others, why?

I don't look at people who believe in a negative light at all. Religion provides hope for those who have none and that is a great service, no doubt. I'm not sitting here saying 'oh those crazy Christians' but you are sitting there saying that I'm an idiot for not believing the fairy tale?

email468 · #**213** 05-25-2008, 09:34 AM

ZenMaster · #**214** 05-25-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Mountain High

Zen master,

I'm a logical person and there is no PROOF that's why it's called FAITH. You CHOOSE to have it. I CHOOSE not too and all you did was further the article. I'm not trying to get you to NOT BELIEVE so why are you trying to get me to BELIEVE?

I'm not forcing my views down your throat but, just like the article says, you and Christians continually try to push down others, why?

I don't look at people who believe in a negative light at all. Religion provides hope for those who have none and that is a great service, no doubt. I'm not sitting here saying 'oh those crazy Christians' but you are sitting there saying that I'm an idiot for not believing the fairy tale?

What? I'm not forcing any view down any throat, you must have recently jumped in this thread because my main argument that this universe is to complex to just happen randomly. Don't get so defensive, I am not a vigilante.

We TaRdED · #**215** 05-25-2008, 10:48 AM

If people could accept each for who they are than the world would be a better place. I say let people be, if they feel compelled to learn about Christ or why there religion is a fallacy, than so be it.

If something is inconclusive than how can we be so adamant? Religion has caused more deaths than than anything else(at least thats what I've heard).

I don't see why America has he right to impose our ways upon other countries, leave their culture alone, stop the genocide. ~lol~ Sorry about the rant...

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~

Rocky Mountain High · #**216** 05-25-2008, 11:00 AM

Zen you are right I did just jump into this thread and I didn't take the time to read the posts from beginning to the end so I could be talking from my arce.

This line made me think you were clowning me, saying oh you don't believe so there is no meaning?

You can't prove there's a god, so I'm going to believe the universe is a chance happening and that my life has no meaning because it's a cosmic mistake"

Explain to me please?

Thanks man

email468 · #**217** 05-25-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by We TaRdED

I don't see why America has he right to impose our ways upon other countries, leave their culture alone, stop the genocide. ~lol~ Sorry about the rant...

The US separates church and state - which is why people fight for and against prayer in school, ten commandments in the court house, etc...

no such thing as a national church/religion in the US - it is one of the founding principals.

I don't think the US goes to war to spread any religion or suppress any religion. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

email468 · #**218** 05-25-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Mountain High

Zen you are right I did just jump into this thread and I didn't take the time to read the posts from beginning to the end so I could be talking from my arce.

This line made me think you were clowning me, saying oh you don't believe so there is no meaning?

You can't prove there's a god, so I'm going to believe the universe is a chance happening and that my life has no meaning because it's a cosmic mistake"

Explain to me please?

Thanks man

I think Zen is setting up the false dichotomy (either-or). it is the old "without God where does morality and meaning come from" argument. You can either have God and meaning/morality or you can be godless and without meaning/morals.

When in reality, as you probably know, there are more sides to that coin.

We TaRdED · #**219** 05-25-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by email468

I don't think the US goes to war to spread any religion or suppress any religion. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Idk, I might be thinking about it wrong. I just figure after so much time of us having bases in the middle east, and putting allies as their leaders. I can see the McDonald's, Burger king, Walmart, etc etc being built over there within good time. After so many of 'our' companies have been running over there, innately their culture will change due to their new environment. I'm sure it would start slowly, but given the appropriate time, they are going to build like America with malls and etc.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~

email468 · #**220** 05-25-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by We TaRdED

Idk, I might be thinking about it wrong. I just figure after so much time of us having bases in the middle east, and putting allies as their leaders. I can see the McDonald's, Burger king, Walmart, etc etc being built over there within good time. After so many of 'our' companies have been running over there, innately their culture will change due to their new environment. I'm sure it would start slowly, but given the appropriate time, they are going to build like America with malls and etc.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~

No doubt having those things would change a culture - it certainly changed American culture. But I'm not sure what that would have to do with religion. I mean a McDonalds is not a cathedral and a Wal-Mart is not a mosque. It's not like those places are handing out religious tracts or passing around collection plates. And you sure don't have to go into them.