Originally Posted by 40acres

Are you guys still arguing over jesus?

Originally Posted by IheartKeif

468, Thats really not a nice thing to say. I have watched your guys verbal masterbation go back and forth and would think you would agree to disagree. Life is too short to go through it pointing out what you perceive to be other peoples faults. We all decide how we are going to walk through this journey. I would suggest we show respect and understanding towards each other.
PS: Dont get stoned in a graveyard, thats just weird.

Originally Posted by email468

Well I guess I have received my comeuppance. Thank you for clearing that up and ending this futile debate.

Christians.. meet your spokesperson.

Originally Posted by email468

I guess you're conveniently forgetting that i would have been burned at the stake for expounding my beliefs by Christians, up until about 200 years ago.

I am not saying there is no good to Christianity but the good vs. the bad is certainly debatable. And Christianity did not invent non-violence, tolerance and faith. Speaking of faith - i would consider holding up faith as a virtue as one of the most vile things Christianity (or any religion) has done.

Your assertion that Christianity gave us the world we are living with today is highly debatable if not outright preposterous. It was reason and enlightenment that broke the shackles of faith that allowed us to live in the modern world. It wasn't until monks, scientists, and other "renaissance" folks started looking at the ancient/classical learning (Greek and Roman NOT christian/judaic) the world became modern.

Please note that the Pharisees (Jewish high priests) care about what other Jews do - they never had jurisdiction over large numbers of goyim.

Originally Posted by Yondaime

And by the way, If I haven't said this before, im not speaking about my opinion or as if to prove something to you - I'm speaking through religious doctrine that I can back up with scripture...

Originally Posted by Rocky Mountain High

god and religion are nothing more than 'santa claus' for adults. he sees you when you are sleeping and knows when you're awake and if you are bad, you don't get a lump of coal for christmas, you get lumped into hell to burn!

If you NEED religion to make you act right, then believe the bull. If not just be a 'good person' and live your life to the fullest.

I saw a comedian recently and he had a good schtick on religion saying that even if you tried to explain it to a child or a retarded person, they would have some serious questions. Moses was how OLD? And he was able to get 2 of everything into the boat? What the hell did they eat, when they normally would eat each other?

I guess faith can outweigh logic when presented in a nice package, huh?