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Old 05-16-2008, 10:42 AM
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Its easy to avoid everything anyone says with a "well thats just your interpretation" isn't it? And for your information, no that is not my interpretation, that is what the trinity is, go look it up in your reference books smart guy..

Why would you as an atheist care if blaspheming the Holy Ghost is an unforgivable sin, do you want to do it now just because your told not to?
You're right - I personally don't care. Believe what you want but I'm not the one that founded other Christian sects that have a different interpretation of the trinity. It is all a bunch of hogwash to me.

Why would i worry about blaspheming anything. I'm not that petty - or at least I hope i'm not that petty.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:53 AM
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You bother to send Jesus, because he is the messiah, who fulfills the prophecies* and who teaches the world non-violence, tolerance, faith and gives billions of people worldwide hope, inspiration and a message from God? He also sparked a change in society (Christianity) that led up to the slightly morally developed world we live in today where you can survive as an atheist without having the Jewish councils or religious fanatics stone you legally for blasphemy or nail you to a cross because you have a different message about life.. It also has a huge connection with original sin that I would explain to you, but as I said earlier you will probably just shrug it off with "but thats just an interpretation"..

*Jesus actually had to be quite a few things according to prophecies in the old testament to be considered as a credible messiah according to religious prophecies
I guess you're conveniently forgetting that i would have been burned at the stake for expounding my beliefs by Christians, up until about 200 years ago.

I am not saying there is no good to Christianity but the good vs. the bad is certainly debatable. And Christianity did not invent non-violence, tolerance and faith. Speaking of faith - i would consider holding up faith as a virtue as one of the most vile things Christianity (or any religion) has done.

Your assertion that Christianity gave us the world we are living with today is highly debatable if not outright preposterous. It was reason and enlightenment that broke the shackles of faith that allowed us to live in the modern world. It wasn't until monks, scientists, and other "renaissance" folks started looking at the ancient/classical learning (Greek and Roman NOT christian/judaic) the world became modern.

Please note that the Pharisees (Jewish high priests) care about what other Jews do - they never had jurisdiction over large numbers of goyim.
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We've been in a holy war since God casted Satan (once an angel) into the pits of hell. Jesus was just a form of the Father. Sent to Earth with a message for all of us. The vague beliefs that we shower ourselves with is understandable. Everything in the old testament actually happened however. You can follow humanity and the world we live in today right along with the good book. The fact is no one will know until new modern day pages of the bible are written. If your ever smoking some weed in a grave yard and bodies raise from the ground, you atheist can eat your words. You can talk about it all you want to, but until our times up, were going to continue to be in the dark.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:47 AM
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We've been in a holy war since God casted Satan (once an angel) into the pits of hell. Jesus was just a form of the Father. Sent to Earth with a message for all of us. The vague beliefs that we shower ourselves with is understandable. Everything in the old testament actually happened however. You can follow humanity and the world we live in today right along with the good book. The fact is no one will know until new modern day pages of the bible are written. If your ever smoking some weed in a grave yard and bodies raise from the ground, you atheist can eat your words. You can talk about it all you want to, but until our times up, were going to continue to be in the dark.
Well I guess I have received my comeuppance. Thank you for clearing that up and ending this futile debate.

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468, Thats really not a nice thing to say. I have watched your guys verbal masterbation go back and forth and would think you would agree to disagree. Life is too short to go through it pointing out what you perceive to be other peoples faults. We all decide how we are going to walk through this journey. I would suggest we show respect and understanding towards each other.
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468, Thats really not a nice thing to say. I have watched your guys verbal masterbation go back and forth and would think you would agree to disagree. Life is too short to go through it pointing out what you perceive to be other peoples faults. We all decide how we are going to walk through this journey. I would suggest we show respect and understanding towards each other.
PS: Dont get stoned in a graveyard, thats just weird.
I treat people with the same amount as I am treated. Perhaps you could re-read what was written from an atheists POV.
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Well the bible talks about behemoths in Job which is believed to be the oldest book in the bible, but callin' em dinosaurs is just interpretation
The Behemoth is said to be a common old hippo, but the Leviathon towards the end of Job is the most fascinating. To me, the description of Leviathon is an exact description of an amphibious tank, with a nose that sprouts fire, and it even leaves an oil slick and its tracks are like a threshing sledge : imprinted.

Just weird,
and there is more weird stuff in the Bible than most people realize, even people who claim to have read it.

And as for the moon - and science -
the energy required to move the tides is sapped from the momentum of the moon - another reason why the mood should have plunged into the earth billions of years ago. What is keeping it at bay?
THe same thing that ensures that the far side - the exposed side - has far LESS craters than the near side?
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God and Science:
Consider Pythagorus' theorem : That the square of the hypoteneuse is the sum of the square of the adjacent and opposite sides.

exactly : a right angle triangle with one side 3m and one side 4m will have the other side exactly 5m.

Because 3x3 + 4x4 = 5x5

Is that not spectacular evidence that our universe has been perfectly designed?

One's mind must first be open to the possibility of direct communion with 'the helper', before one's faith reaches the point where such wonders occur.

How can faith be bad?
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The Behemoth is said to be a common old hippo, but the Leviathon towards the end of Job is the most fascinating. To me, the description of Leviathon is an exact description of an amphibious tank, with a nose that sprouts fire, and it even leaves an oil slick and its tracks are like a threshing sledge : imprinted.

Just weird,
and there is more weird stuff in the Bible than most people realize, even people who claim to have read it.

And as for the moon - and science -
the energy required to move the tides is sapped from the momentum of the moon - another reason why the mood should have plunged into the earth billions of years ago. What is keeping it at bay?
THe same thing that ensures that the far side - the exposed side - has far LESS craters than the near side?
Yep lots of weird stuff goes on in fairy tales. No argument here.
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God and Science:
Consider Pythagorus' theorem : That the square of the hypoteneuse is the sum of the square of the adjacent and opposite sides.

exactly : a right angle triangle with one side 3m and one side 4m will have the other side exactly 5m.

Because 3x3 + 4x4 = 5x5

Is that not spectacular evidence that our universe has been perfectly designed?

One's mind must first be open to the possibility of direct communion with 'the helper', before one's faith reaches the point where such wonders occur.

How can faith be bad?
You have been twisted 468.
Yes I know I'm twisted. Math works.. that is your argument for God? Yep - i'm twisted alright.

Obviously you are very certain you are correct in what you believe and how you believe it. I concede that I do not have that surety so will readily admit you may very well be right and leave it at that.

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