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Originally Posted by email468
Unless I'm mistaken, you obviously have very deep-seated religious beliefs that are Christian in flavor. I'm not sure if I've asked this before, but I am curious about your username: ZenMaster. I'm wondering how you can marry being a ZenMaster with being a devout Christian?
None of my damn business is, of course, an acceptable answer but you seem willing to share your other beliefs so I figured I'd ask.
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Well your right, Zen is the enlightenment that Buddhism strives for and they typically go against all forms of religion. I respect and understand their quest to expand their understanding of the universe and matter that connects everyone, however I believe I am more enlightened than them and recognize that our universe has an architect and God is involved in our lives. Thus I have become the ZenMaster
. Slightly conceded but I think a marriage of Zen and God is a great duo.
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Originally Posted by Yondaime
ZenMasteR: I think you missed the toke and talk section, this is the spirituality, sexuality and philosophy section :P
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Okay..?
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Originally Posted by email468
The real question is why would God need to get his Son involved at all. If God is perfect (not capable of making mistakes) then His creations (us) would also be incapable of making mistakes. Or if that isn't logical enough how about this one - why couldn't God just forgive us without the Jesus thing - wouldn't an all-powerful God just be able to forgive and have done with it - i mean if He is omniscient He would already know what fuck-ups we'd turn out to be so why not just go ahead and correct his mistake (or would that require Him admitting He is not infallible).
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Well first off, God is perfect, however we are not, we are given free will. You have to think about it, what would be the point? We are born into a perfect world with no trials to test our character or anything, we simply exist and die? Sure God could have created that world, but what would be the point, to have no free will? I believe this world is merely a test, a stage to see how well we performed in this rat race. But the answer will always be the same, we could have done better. Why God needed Jesus? Because we are human, we have to have something. We are a very tribal civilization that revolve around idols and symbols, and we are united under the cross.
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Originally Posted by email468
I have heard that God is all-knowing, all-loving and all-powerful. To which I call bullshit. If he were all-loving there is no possible way He'd allow the horrible things that happen in this world. And if he is all-loving then He either doesn't know about it (so He isn't all-knowing) or can't do anything about it (so He isn't all-powerful).
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Why do you blame it on God? Instead pray for those who lack God and are full of greed. In the end, they will be judged.
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Originally Posted by email468
Hmmm. I could go on and on and on but i think you get the picture. OK one more... God can't be all-knowing/omniscient - otherwise He wouldn't keep acting all surprised when we screw up (ala The Big Flood)... wouldn't He have seen that one coming?
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I'm not sure if he is omniscient, I think he has so much wisdom, that he basically seems omniscient. In the garden of eden, he had Adam name all the animals in the kingdom, it was kind of entertaining to God, but he didn't know what Adam would choose to call, say a lion. And I do think he was surprised at the amount of evil we were capable of.
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