Nonbelievers, how did you lose your religion?

Originally Posted by mindphuk

waaaaa!

If your beliefs are rational, you should be able to demonstrate it with logic, because that is the definition of rational. If you think that's an insult, that's your cross to bear. Belief without good rational reasons to believe is by definition irrational. Don't like it? Prove me wrong.

I have plenty of proof. Its not my fault that proof isnt good enuf for atheists.

Originally Posted by Kaendar

Lets sum this up. 1994-2011 your a happy kid with dumb friends. 2011 hits and you get convinced by some idiot that he knows when the world is gonna end. 2011-2012 you get convinced by even more idiots on the internet that your religion and god are a lie.

Dumb friends? Where did you get that from?

2011 hits and I start thinking. Thinking kills any irrational beliefs. You should try it some time.

Here's a much shorter summary.

1994-2006: No religion and I'm the happiest I've been in my entire life.

2006-2011: Don't question anything and at one point I believed in "doggy heaven" which isn't too much different than my other beliefs.

2011-2012: I can't believe anymore.


I like my doggy heaven thing. Try to believe that kaendar. Try to believe that when dogs die, they go to heaven. Hard right? Imagine how I feel.

Originally Posted by patlpp

Why a particular denomination? I didn't say that , I said God, as in salvation, redemption. You will see the beauty of life.

Exactly. When people are about to die, majority of them snap back into realizing that life is too precious for a god not to exist. Our minds, thoughts, emotions, love, passion, is of too much value to just stop existing when death comes. Another thing is that alot of atheists start worrying about the destination of their previously non existent soul when they are about to die.

Originally Posted by Hepheastus420

Dumb friends? Where did you get that from?

2011 hits and I start thinking. Thinking kills any irrational beliefs. You should try it some time.

Your atheist friends. Thinking is what proves to me that god has to be real. The universe is too complex to have happened by chance. I am proof that god exists. The earths perfect size and distance from the sun is proof. The way that our cells and DNA work is proof. Having a child... that to me is more proof than I need. The love and innocence that a child brings into your life... its more than words can explain.

Originally Posted by Kaendar

Your atheist friends. Thinking is what proves to me that god has to be real. The universe is too complex to have happened by chance. I am proof that god exists. The earths perfect size and distance from the sun is proof. The way that our cells and DNA work is proof. Having a child... that to me is more proof than I need. The love and innocence that a child brings into your life... its more than words can explain.

How are they dumb though? did you read my edit?

Originally Posted by Kaendar

I have plenty of proof. Its not my fault that proof isnt good enuf for atheists.

Let me explain once more. I understand you believe and you think the proof you have is sufficient. However, if you want to convince another person that your belief has merit, you MUST present good REASONS for this belief, otherwise, people will continue to reject your claim as unreasonable. I have a dragon in my garage. It is an invisible dragon and breathes heatless fire. You can't see him but I know he's there and that proof is good enough for me. If someone called that an irrational belief, they would be right in spite of the fact that I know my dragon is real. What you think is true has absolutely no bearing on whether it appears as an irrational belief to other people or not. As I said, rational beliefs can be backed up with rational reasons. Claiming proof that is not good enough to withstand a court proceeding certainly isn't going to sway many people.

Originally Posted by patlpp

Why a particular denomination? I didn't say that , I said God, as in salvation, redemption. You will see the beauty of life as Gods gift to you when you are about to lose it. A moment of clarity LOL

Not fair to call that a "god" then, if you suddenly see the greater meaning of things before you are about to pass. To many, that might be interpeted as "god", but to many others, it's just realizing the preciousness of life.

The last paragraph is a joke. He acts like its his moral duty to spend countless hours trying to convince believers that their beliefs are irrational and that they shouldnt believe in them. Cant believe this blow hard is a spirituality mod.