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    So ,what can we define as personal will,not just free will,But also the will to go on in life despite the hardship that typicaly accompanies it.
    Could it be a stubbornness of hope?What if you dont have neither hope nor despair,yet have the will to keep on?Is it just simply choice?Or do we still rely on the term free will and its definition?
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    I thought free will only encompassed an individuals right or ability to make their own decisions...
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    A good deal of it is instinct, operating below the level immediately accessible to decisions of will. The drive to live is surprisingly hard to cancel. My opinion. cn
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    That is why I believe so many people fail at killing themselves... Because it's really not that hard of a thing to do if you were serious about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannabineer View Post
    A good deal of it is instinct, operating below the level immediately accessible to decisions of will. The drive to live is surprisingly hard to cancel. My opinion. cn



    Instinct is a good word for it, or could it be a.k.a. the primordial will?There are some instances where survival is the only option and your only coherent at a certain level due to some form of trauma(-i know im being a bit general here bear with me-)but when one is at such a point I dont think there are any decisions left, I totaly agree that the drive to live is truely astounding and resilient.What about the ability or gumption to push ones self past limits previously perceived, almost a discipline-like will, could this go beyond the free will?Or dose it simply stay free will?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dislexicmidget2021 View Post
    Instinct is a good word for it, or could it be a.k.a. the primordial will?There are some instances where survival is the only option and your only coherent at a certain level due to some form of trauma(-i know i'm being a bit general here bear with me-)but when one is at such a point I don't think there are any decisions left, I totally agree that the drive to live is truly astounding and resilient.What about the ability or gumption to push ones self past limits previously perceived, almost a discipline-like will, could this go beyond the free will?Or dose it simply stay free will?
    I'd say a blend. To push yourself past a limit, say in high-level military training or equivalent, would require a partnership between will and animal drive. The will can veto, but it needs the participation of drive to execute. maybe that's part of the point of extreme training: to make that somewhat ecstatic condition familiar and a dependable resource. cn
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    Do you think animals think of suicide?

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    ^ I've seen squirrels with full-blown rigor mortis stuck on hydro lines with the 'middle finger' extended on all 4 feet. Uncertain
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    ^goodness, that made me laugh. cn
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