When do you get a soul??

Originally Posted by DirtyGloveLuv

please explain, its really annoying when people try 2 word things in ways that make seem more intelligent. it takes more intelligence 2 explain things in a understandable manner than 2 just sling big, rarely used words around.

It would help very much if you didn't treat a numeral as an auxiliary verb. And those are two words I use often, so I challenge that part of your complaint as well. cn

<edit> technically, a particle.

subjective....yes, irreducibly subjective....no because somthing cannot be irreducibly subjective, that doesnt even make sense.

Originally Posted by DirtyGloveLuv

thats the stupidest shit ive ever heard, so your telling me if i take a gun and shoot you in the face i cant say that if that gun had not been made your brains wouldnt be splattered on the wall at the exact moment. that sounds like somthing OJ Simpson could have used in his defence, ignorant bureucratic Zionistic defence shit

That is not what I said at all... your comprehension skills are lacking...

It would equate to if you put a gun in my face, pulled the trigger and put pieces of my brain on the wall behind me that there is no way to know that if by your actions you did more harm to the world than you did good... my not yet conceived children could grow up to be war criminals and you may have stopped that from happening...

on the flip side if you don't kill me my children becoming war criminals and the atrocities that they commit could involve the murdering of someone that could have grown up to become worse than all of my potential war criminal children combined...


You can never say with accuracy and certainty that the world/humanity would have been better off without something happening or if something had have happened... it is all speculation...

Originally Posted by DirtyGloveLuv

subjective....yes, irreducibly subjective....no because [something] cannot be irreducibly subjective, that [doesn't] even make sense.

If you cannot remove subjectivity from a concept, I would call that irreducible. That has the consequence of making it unarguable in either direction. cn

Originally Posted by Zaehet Strife

I wonder if it would be possible for human existence to survive in this universe forever. Through technology such as traveling through worm holes, half biological and mechanical bodies with nano machines that have our cells never degenerate. Who really knows where technology will bring us.

I just watched that new Tron movie, the main characters father describes time passing in the digital world as seconds are to years... maybe we will put our brains into a matrix type reality where time passes slower, that way we would increase our time of existence in the real world substantially...maybe we've already done it? Hehehe, i am so baked right now.

Edit: Dude, i watched this stephen hawking show about time, where it says time will pass slower if we can get a shit into orbit really close to a black hole... we could combine that with the matrix idea for ultimate time!

Time travel is possible. Theoretically. We exist in a universe Einstein called 'Space/Time'. Not 2 distinct things. But essentially the same thing.

The existence without a universe seems implausible, we need matter right? .... There maybe other universes yet to discover but life in these universes is unlikely to be compatible to our own.

Originally Posted by Moebius

Atheism is essentially the rejection of an idea. Without the idea to reject we are left without the question. Without the question, all we are, are animals.

I do have to agree... atheism is a rejection of an idea. Which is why i have moved on to the label of the existential nihilist.

Originally Posted by Moebius

Atheism is essentially the rejection of an idea. Without the idea to reject we are left without the question. Without the question, all we are, are animals.

Atheism is the disbelief in a higher being. If there was no religion, I doubt people would believe in a higher being. If that was the case, we would all be atheists since there's no higher being to believe in.

And we are just animals. Just like deer.

Originally Posted by Shannon Alexander

That is not what I said at all... your comprehension skills are lacking...

It would equate to if you put a gun in my face, pulled the trigger and put pieces of my brain on the wall behind me that there is no way to know that if by your actions you did more harm to the world than you did good... my not yet conceived children could grow up to be war criminals and you may have stopped that from happening...

on the flip side if you don't kill me my children becoming war criminals and the atrocities that they commit could involve the murdering of someone that could have grown up to become worse than all of my potential war criminal children combined...


You can never say with accuracy and certainty that the world/humanity would have been better off without something happening or if something had have happened... it is all speculation...

your putting words in my mouth or text whatever haha. your taking things other people said and trying 2 use them 2 argue with somthing i said and its not even the same things were talking about at this point. have fun arguing with a wall, which is probably your intellectual equal.