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    Here you go High, explains in a way everyone can understand, and its fun too!

    "Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astounding universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy."
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    Holy butt fuck, thanks strife! Now I understand.. Thats incredibly strange.. I always think about these things when I trip really hard and they make complete and utter sense. I cant wait til the fourth!

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    Harharharhar xD

    Here if you guys wanna get into it. Im gonna watch it again tonight as Im having a whole new light to quantom mechanics
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics...-universe.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaehet Strife View Post
    I think we all need to take into consideration that there was a time when there was no consciousness in the universe, matter had not yet evolved to incorporate this. So if at one point there are no conscious beings to observe the universe, would this not mean that the universe would cease to exist as it would not be observable by anything?

    This is a rhetorical question, written to make others think, that is all.
    But what does matter have to do with consciousness? Pre-universe, maybe its possible that the potential energy that would become the universe was pure consciousness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    But what does matter have to do with consciousness? Pre-universe, maybe its possible that the potential energy that would become the universe was pure consciousness?
    But, matter alone has created your consciousness. And now it seem more likely that consciousness is a quantum effect. The material we call matter is undifined except in a gross physical sense.

    And since we only know one type of conscousness, it may be that the universe has another type of self-awareness. It has to do with qunatum computing. If we can do it, the universe my use QC with neutrinos somehow, as it's DNA to unroll it's living self. It's living self has a propensity to produce organic molecules and black holes. There are cloulds of ethanol that extend for light years, for example.

    So, in this very strange view, we are the gut fauna of the universe. No mystery we are here. We're part of the universe and it's natural abilitiies as an organism. It could be spawing child universes in the bottom of black holes. We could be a universe pod spawned at the bottom of a parent hole. So, it reads like fantasy, but it's math. Does not make it true, but it is a bit more than just a silly idea.
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