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    ^ prayer is meditation.
    "No, no, ring this doorbell. That doorbell will give you a rash."

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye exaggerate View Post
    ^ prayer is meditation.
    i thought meditation is living in the moment and clearing your mind? shit. oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpmarine View Post
    Catholics believe in christ, and are the original"Christians". Either way though, that isn't really addressing the message of my reply.
    My Orthodox grandmother would have taken some offense. cn
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhazey View Post
    i thought meditation is living in the moment and clearing your mind? shit. oh well.
    ...first, clear mind, then live in moment =.=
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    Quote Originally Posted by eye exaggerate View Post
    ...first, clear mind, then live in moment
    hahaha im sort of always living in the moment so clearing my mind comes second... i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eye exaggerate View Post
    ...first, clear mind, then live in moment =.=
    ...Rinse. Repeat. cn
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    Quote Originally Posted by cannabineer View Post
    ...Rinse. Repeat. cn

    ...and so on, and so on, and so on
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    Bingo!! cn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaendar View Post
    So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.
    What is ridiculous is that any time a skeptical person expresses doubt to a claim of PROOF, the nutters on this board begin attacking the skeptics and labeling them atheists and conflating that with science. Everyday in most everyone's life, we apply skeptical reasoning to most everything, from financial deals to the doctors you choose and the medicine you take, and even when buying a car. Yet when it comes to something so incredible and unbelievable, skepticism suddenly becomes a bad thing and you become dismissive about it and hypercritical of those that want to apply skeptical, rational thought to these claims.

    Lack of knowledge about something does not make it true. You argument is no different than saying science has not proved faeries, so they are true. Look up the logical fallacy argumentum ad ignorantium because you seem to commit this one quite often.

    I am human like you. I would sincerely like to find out that there really is a god or I have a soul that can live beyond my physical life, who wouldn't? So when I see someone make a claim to 'proof' I certainly am interested in hearing this new proof. Then here you come along and insult and criticize me and others for being disappointed when we find out that this proof is hardly what it was claimed and trying to explain to the OP WHY it is inadequate and definitely not proof, let alone good evidence. I'm tolerant of ideas but I do not have to be tolerant of fallacious reasoning being touted as truth. Calling out someone's illogical thinking in a debate/discussion forum is not intolerance, it is teaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhazey View Post
    i thought meditation is living in the moment and clearing your mind? shit. oh well.
    While it is possible to constantly.......(I can't characterize it) I can't agree with either, (all 3?) of you.

    Prayer is not meditation, but prayer can lead to silent contemplation. Meditation is more like saying the Roseriary, or chanting. Most, if not all meditation involves Chanting of some form. The most effective, imo, are just sounds, not words. Sounds that product beneficial physical vibrations in the skull. Om, Hu, etc.

    And then there are internal senses of sound, taste, sight, etc to Preceive, that are totally un-hooked from temporal duality as they are experienced only after the mind clould of thought is ducked completely.
    Last edited by Doer; 06-20-2012 at 02:56 PM.
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