PROOF that GOD Exists......

Originally Posted by afrawfraw

Yes, we would.

...that's unfortunate.

A grand old punchline comes to mind: What you mean "we", Paleface? cn

Originally Posted by cannabineer

A grand old punchline comes to mind: What you mean "we", Paleface? cn

We haven't spoken to anyone else for thousands of years so we started talking to ourselves. - Moorla

So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.

Originally Posted by Kaendar

So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.

Careful Kaendar, you admitted to only reading half the thread so you're about to get flamed by a bunch of people. also, I find it interesting that this was your take on the thread. Quite literally, I find it interesting. If you finish the thread please comment on whether you maintain your position. My interest lies with the fact that you seem to be ok with atheism in itself, but it would appear that your reading of their posts understands them as quite hostile and stubborn. While I agree with the tenor of your post above, it may do well to temper your statement. If you'll notice, you've somewhat allied yourself with the non-atheist "camp" (for lack of better terminology) and will be subject to the criticism that your reading of the atheists posts is colored by your own subjective position. Also, that this forum is ostensibly for people who enjoy cannabis, this should not be taken to mean anything about the proclivities, politics or attitudes of the people here. Every kind of person loves kind so you don't have to be a specific kind of person to be here; it takes all kinds.
be easy

Originally Posted by Kaendar

So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.

Religion and science are the same thing (Almost)= “Every human culture has a set of creation myths, but they’re in the realm of mythology or religion or folklore and of course they’re all mutually inconsistent." - Carl Sagan

“In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.”
―

Carl Sagan

This is why religion and science are never going to be similar. You ask for tolerance and open minds, and then push the BIBLE!? I'm just too ignorant to condone slavery, abuse, murder, genocide, rape, and suggesting that females are substandard. I'm too ignorant to go from "?" to "A cosmic Jewish zombie walked the earth after being stapled to a couple 2X4's, turned water into wine, bread into fish, and had a virgin mother. Who the fuck believes that!? If I did witness Jesus' return, I'd give him a "Double Tap", a fitting response to any Zombie. I apologize for my ignorant understanding of the bible. I had no idea millions of animals could fit on a crudely build freighter. Just too damn ignorant to understand that if GOD wants you to be aware of him, he uses doctrine like any other religion, and makes no appearances. Oh, while your talking shit about Atheists, uh, you're worshiping one. To say that "If science can't prove it it's not real." Shows you have no understanding of science, or how it is revered by people who study it. If science can't even observe it, I don't say "It doesn't exist." I'd say, "Hmmm, looks like we need more information." If I saw a "Miracle", I wouldn't freak out and start thanking shiva, or Allah, or any magical creature. I would ask for an observation using instruments not susceptible to delusion. Just because it looks real and feels real, doesn't mean it's real. I'm sorry to have bothered you with this ignorant posting. - An ignorant skeptic.

Originally Posted by Kaendar

So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.

The reason this is offensive is because you are searching for flaws in the opposition without first searching for flaws in your own opinion and knowledge. Why do you suppose you are entitled to speak critically about a subject you have not explored? You only bring to the table your own flaws and subject us to your cognitive failures. This does not seem to be very responsible or conscientious, in fact it seems very pigheaded and shortsighted.

Originally Posted by Kaendar

So I read thru like half of this.. its ridiculous how eventually every thread having to do with something that goes beyond what modern science can explain some atheists, or trolls, come and start making personal attacks. I have one message for atheists. You dont believe? Ok. You dont think theres enough proof? Thats fine. But you nor any other human being cannot come out and say "if science cant prove it its not real". Do you know how much shit there is on this planet that human minds cant comprehend, or computers? Do you know how much shit there is in the entire universe?? Science has probably explained maybe 1% of anything. You cannot sit there and tell somebody that just because you are ignorant and dont believe things that cant be proved, that it cant exist. And the funny thing is that science has only proved most things in religion to be true. The bible has almost been proved to completely true because advancements in science. If you were really so smart, you would realize that science and religion are the same thing. (almost). The problem is not too many ppl put 2 and 2 together. This is a weed forum, pot smokers are supposed to be open minded and tolerant of others ideas, especially since we want everyone to be tolerant and open minded to our pot smoking. Stop being stubborn. If I could mail this to you it wud be on a piece of paper that I wiped my ass with.

so many things wrong with everything just posted... where to begin?

science is nowhere near the same thing as religion, religion is basically folk lore to get people to submit to the church(most religions that is), science is knowledge acquired through experimentation and observation. religion is nowhere near the same thing as science, that was incredibly ignorant to say, not to mention religion was created to answer questions that science(which was not yet advanced enough) should have answered, though there is still some things we cant answer we shouldnt go off making establishments that support these ideas(note i said idea, not theory, not proof, but an idea, theres no proof behind an idea). better yet we shouldnt tell people if they deny these ideas theyre gonna burn in hell or some sort of eternal suffering.

your trying to defend a guy who tried saying dreams(basically what an NDE is) is solid evidence of the existence of god while its just the release of chemicals in your brain, similar to the chemicals you release when dreaming, but he denied the fact that this gland that releases said chemicals(the pinneal gland, and dimethyltryptamine) exists at all(probably like how he denies dinosaurs, after all the worlds just a couple thousand years old right?), revealing his ignorance to something that has been proved, not by a book that has been changed for ages, but through science, something that isnt baseless like religion. he even tried calling one of the respected people in our community stupid, my advice is if you try to recruit people to your pointless religion, go door to door so we have the option of shutting the door on your face, this type of bullshit doesnt belong on a weed forum, especially from someone who gets all their info from a biased source like youtube. now please, dont mail your fecal matter on paper, thats fucking disgusting.