Religion: why you believe what you believe, and how can you prove it.

Originally Posted by Growman3001

You want to believe in God, go ahead...
That dont mean pick a religion though...


Do what makes sense to you, not what others tell you is right...

Agree a person should follow it's own belief

Originally Posted by esc420211

God is like a lion you don't have to defend his word.

A work mate as a bumper sticker that read : SO MANY CHRISTIANs, SO FEW LIONS

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

well you dont need religion to tell you to be nice to other

Of course not. I've seen dogs save kittens from a swimming pool before.

You do not need religion to tell you to be nice, but reading knowledge from 100 generations ago and from several continents helps me feel connected to our ancestors helps me live a frame of mind where I view myself as one with the you, God, and the Universe.

Originally Posted by Heisenberg

The lack of mind control is actually the problem in virtually all cases. Lack of mental discipline. The heart of all these issues is the willingness to surrender the mind to ideas with no support. Accepting answers to questions which have none, and pretending they must be right. In most cases, the problem can be distilled down to the inability or unwillingness to think. It's that simple. Not to say a thinking man must be atheist, but if a person is truly conscientious there is rarely a problem no matter their beliefs.

" All humans are born with a brain, but its another to find a man that can use them, and use them well"--George Orwell's 1984
"Nothing is greater to a Government than a citizenry of sheep"--Adolf Hitler


Truer words are rarely spoken Heins. Makes me think of the infamous proverb of " Lifes a tragedy to those whom feel, and a utter comedy to those whom think".

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

some religions seem to emphasize shunning a non believer though, this i know to be true. i know people can interpret things differently, but i think it takes a lot to push someone to homicide, and maybe even suicide to kill any non believers, a prime example of how religion diversity could cause problems, and how religion is basically mind control.

Oddly enough while at the dentist last week I was reading an article about the Amish in a magazine. Unbeknownst to myself but the Amish have the largest rate of suicide outside of Islam. Which kinda makes sense to me, as I have seen just how horrific they can be to a non-believer or someone who is "exiled". shunning, especially in the Amish community, can be the blame to such a high suicide rate. If I remember correctly the average age was like 18 or right around the time of Amish "courting" or dating period where they have the option of leaving the cult.

Originally Posted by Geronimo420

A work mate as a bumper sticker that read : SO MANY CHRISTIANs, SO FEW LIONS

I like that. People revere Heysoos so much, that nobody even wants to attempt to live their life like he did. Although, he told us that WE can do anything HE could!

Originally Posted by MixedMelodyMindBender

" All humans are born with a brain, but its another to find a man that can use them, and use them well"--George Orwell's 1984
"Nothing is greater to a Government than a citizenry of sheep"--Adolf Hitler


Truer words are rarely spoken Heins. Makes me think of the infamous proverb of " Lifes a tragedy to those whom feel, and a utter comedy to those whom think".

Hitler's best Quote : The great masses of the people…will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. is regime was base on it.

The paradox is that 21st Century America is perfectly alike Nazi Germany of yesterday. For whatever the reason may be, we forget history, the fastest.

If you take a good hard look at America today, your a fool to think we have not relic the liking of Hitler's "fatherland" ( sound familiar....."homeland"). Whatever the interest of our "homeland" shall it be, law. No where in that, will any human, find freedom. ANd if you think you have, your hallucinating. Its a illusion.

The only thing I think America and its citizenry has on its side, is a very notable history, of being Non-Conformist. Our Government has sadly not learned that the people WILL NEVER bend to the Government. And we will take arms against anything that stands in the way of our self proclaimed Imperial Destiny. Even if its our own Government. Which I think we need more now than ever before.

From time to time, the spirit ( or Zeitgeist) of Liberty will need to be refreshed from time to time with blood and treasure , and even against it's own government--Thomas Jefferson