Religion: why you believe what you believe, and how can you prove it.

Originally Posted by eye exaggerate

...all religions meet at a point. And with a strong atheist worldview I don't know if you can mix and match In my opinion it is the people that boast which make for poor attitudes about religion. As a catholic I don't have much appreciation for those particular christians. The thing is, non-christian people of certain descents have the same 'nose in the air' attitude as the christian ones. To me, that is proof of the religion itself being less to blame than the people who peruse its message.

very true, but a few have some very obvious plots, but some still cant see it. no church gets taxed, yet they want 10% of your salary? doesnt make sense to me, might make sense when your priest pulls up to the church in a ferrari or some shit.
and exactly, boasting or trying to spread your religion is sick to me. however, religion is man made, and i feel like it was designed to persuade and find peoples weakness, and then attempt to seal whatever weakness with faith, which only makes the problem bigger by relying on someone who doesnt really take action in your life, some may believe this but life moved at the same pace before humans came along, unfortunately the development of our frontal cortex would give us the ability to lie. like i said earlier, humans lie, and if they made a book, dont expect them to not be lies.

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

and exactly, boasting or trying to spread your religion is sick to me. however, religion is man made, and i feel like it was designed to persuade and find peoples weakness, and then attempt to seal whatever weakness with faith

...you're right, but I feel that religion was made by man because it happens 'in' people first. Let's say 'tangible' religion is an expression of an 'intangible' religion which is the union of right and left hemispheres in the brain. The inner, or intangible religion is perfect. The outward expression of it, however, is less than stellar at times

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

well you dont need religion to tell you to be nice to other, im atheist but ill gladly help out any stranger.

No offense homie but imo, you're Christian. Maybe even moreso than a lot of the self-righteous ones who scream it at the top of their lungs. Nobody needs a book to be nice, but our world has created humans who are so attached to their ego that they dont often realize how often they put themselves before others.

and yeah i think the same about jesus, he existed but all that god shit was all made up, but when you try to pass on scriptures for so long they will be changed, and who knows who got a hold of the original bible. but the moses thing and the burning bush made sense to me, that guy probably got high as fuck when a forest fire struck in a weed field or something. lucky bastard.

Unless you understand and read old time greek, one may not fully understand the book of John

Unless you understand and read ancient hebrew, one may not fully understand the old testament/torah.

etc etc...

Religion is just a big game of telelphone. But I like to read. and I like to ponder on the spiritual so I read as much as I can get my hands on so I can put it together for myself. Some people dont need to but I personally need emotions to be put into words and ideas that I feel but never verbalized often come to light through the reading of old texts.

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

theres plenty of other ways to do so, i dont think religious diversity ever turns out good, i dont wanna use jerusalem as an example for the billionth time but thats the epitome of what i mean.

Its not diversity in religion that's bad, it's people focusing on the differences and labeling those differences as bad because they dont understand it.

But with understanding comes enlightenment. This is why I like to know my friend's past, histories, back grounds, family life, etc. So that when they say really ignorant shit, I can look past it and chuckle at it.

Religion is just the original form of government...
What religions and governments do best is cause war...

I wanted to be apart of a group so I joined rollitup.org...

You want to believe in God, go ahead...
That dont mean pick a religion though...


Do what makes sense to you, not what others tell you is right...

Originally Posted by BigJon

Its not diversity in religion that's bad, it's people focusing on the differences and labeling those differences as bad because they dont understand it.

...yep And, the 'best' part, we ALL do it. Seems to be the 'job' of man to rise above 'being above' other people.

Originally Posted by crazyhazey

just another way to call yourself different really, doesnt mean shit. you can just say you believe in a handfull of life lessons, but some people want to categorize themselves and create some sort of diversity, which will 99% of the time lead to conflict when speaking about beliefs.

I highly doubt people pick a religion based on how they can be different...