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    I grew up believing in god. It was something that I took for granted, and never questioned. At some point during my teenage years I began questioning this position. I honestly don't recall a single event, or person that changed my mind, but it started to set my bullshit-meter off quite often.

    Fast forward to today .... at the age of 37 I still maintain that there is no such thing as a god. The weird thing is, I've never really examined WHY I feel this way. Reading through this section of RIU has kind of challenged me to engage myself, and really pin down my thinking on this.

    Here is why I don't believe in a god:

    1) Dinosaurs. If a god is behind this all, and he made us in his likeness (I'm flattered), then why did he fuck around for millions of years with dinosaurs and the like? Did he create them, only to kill them and let them marinate under ground for millions of years so we would stumble upon them and have fuel for our cars?

    2) If there *is* a creator, then who created the creator? And who created the creator of the creator? How far back does this creator family tree go?

    3) Talking snakes and magic apples. The bible is filled with ridiculous claims such as these. Why would god impress people with his magic tricks back then, and give us nothing to believe in now? My take is that people had no idea what lighting, thunder, rain, etc was 2000 years ago, and a man living in the clouds was all they could come up with to answer this.

    4) Religion. There are more flavors of religion than there are Ben and Jerry's ice cream. If there is a god, why are there so many different versions?

    5) Science. Science has given us some answers, and will continue to fill in the holes. I don't know if we have the capacity to ever truly know where we came from, and how it all started, but science has at least connected some dots for us. Religion, not so much.

    These points obviously don't touch on everything that shapes my belief (or lack there of), but they account for a good deal of why I think the way I do when it comes to god and religion.

    What points can you detail that help shape the way you feel about this?

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    Atheism isn't a big deal here in the UK, though I'm aware it is very different across the pond. So I'll be interested to see how people respond!
    Despite having an Irish Catholic mum I was atheist (I'm actually an a-deist I think, technically) almost as soon as I started sunday school. She's atheist too now. It think it just makes sense...when you really think about it.

    I think you've put together a pretty solid case there anyway...

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    Good post, OP. My 11-year-old said to me the other day, "If there is a god, why do the things he made have so many design flaws?" Sun can give us cancer, and we would probably die from our own teeth if it wasn't for the dentist. Even we could design things better than he did, and we're just humans..." He went on to name similar observations. Always makes me smile. I think one reason, stemming from emotion, that some people don't want to believe in a god because if he were real, we would be living in a cosmos created by a petty/mean/selfish retard who does things in a very ineffective manner. That would be difficult to accept...
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    well everybody wants to believe is something. if you believe in yourself....your god.
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    I was raised Catholic and forced to attend Sunday school until I was 12. My belief in God was eroded at a young age in my Sunday school class...I was aware of other Religions at a young age and I always used to ask the teacher why Catholicism was the truth but not any other Religion...her response was something like "Well we all know that Jesus Christ is our lord and savior and he died for our sins, that's why!"

    That turned me off really quickly. I took a lot of science courses (Anthropology, Biology, Physics, Chemistry etc...) and that really convinced me that life as we know it is WAY too complicated to simply credit a Deity.

    I'm a Nihilist but I love my life. Life is just a game.
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    ^Existential nihilism for the win. Accepting the absurdity of existence, yet choosing to live happily regardless.

    Tyler, it gives me an astounding sense of joy to know that at least one human in this world is being raised with nothing but the truth, you are a good father, and your son seems to be such a smart young dude.

    Wand, your metaphore on Ben and Jerries ice cream made me laugh soooo fuckin hard! Thank you so much!
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    haha...ive argued many if not all of those points many times with hardcore christians and i find it hilarious because every time it ends up coming down to. "you just gotta believe". none of them can ever answer the questions.

    THANKS FOR THIS POST YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD ARGUEMENT
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler.durden View Post
    Good post, OP. My 11-year-old said to me the other day, "If there is a god, why do the things he made have so many design flaws?" Sun can give us cancer, and we would probably die from our own teeth if it wasn't for the dentist. Even we could design things better than he did, and we're just humans..." He went on to name similar observations. Always makes me smile. I think one reason, stemming from emotion, that some people don't want to believe in a god because if he were real, we would be living in a cosmos created by a petty/mean/selfish retard who does things in a very ineffective manner. That would be difficult to accept...
    That's really interesting to hear about your son, Tyler. I have a 10 year old daughter, and she is just beginning to ask questions about this. Is your son coming to these conclusions on his own, or do you feel you've had a hand in shaping his early beliefs on a deity? I'm not sure if I should simply present both sides of the equation and let her figure this out on her own, or if I should let her know exactly how I feel ..... or something in between??

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    Quote Originally Posted by drolove View Post
    haha...ive argued many if not all of those points many times with hardcore christians and i find it hilarious because every time it ends up coming down to. "you just gotta believe". none of them can ever answer the questions.

    THANKS FOR THIS POST YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD ARGUEMENT
    Yeah, I get the same thing when ever the topic comes up around my religious friends/family.

    In a way I'd like to be proven wrong. I really like the idea of being able to spend eternity with loved ones, but inevitably I get the same answer that you do. Point to *something* for me! Give me something tangible that would make me reconsider .... not just "you have to believe"!

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