Experiences Defined

I have tried to explain this before, but it seems many are reluctant to grasp this notion. Say you experience something along the lines of "spiritual" this experience is only spiritual because you perceive it to be so. If you were born a scientist, you may think of this experience as a physiological malfunction. Regardless of these ideas, they make no difference. Honesty with self, is what makes the difference.

If you are true to yourself, and if you are completely honest within your own being... you will understand this notion. And instead of giving your own definition to an experience that cannot be explained (for when it is explained, it changes from "experience" to your own perception of it, which changes it completely from what it WAS, to what you want it to BE) let it be just that, an experience.

If we are honest, we will observe ourselves when we have these experiences, we will observe the others that experience it with us, and we will do just that, experience it. No thought, no mind, no thing... just experiencing for experiences sake.

For we know, that when any of us try to make sense of this experience, it changes from what it IS to what we want it to BE.

If we wish to not become deluded by our own emotional baggage... we must learn how to grasp and let go of ideas we have or barrow from others, and to never hold onto a belief... because as much as we want them to be certain... they aren't. The only certainty in life is that we are all going to die, and none of us knows what happens after we close our eyes forever, no matter how desperately we like to think otherwise. No matter how diligently we delude ourselves.

All i am really trying to say... is that you should never be too certain that your experiences based on your own perception of reality which is based on the emotions you have... are true. Because as we all know, perceptions based on emotion give us no grounds for knowledge.

Perceptions based on emotion.. give us what we want! lol! We must perceive all things objectively if we are to arrive anywhere near the truth, this cannot happen if we perceive things subjectively... because whatever we perceive subjectively is always what we want!

I would love to give my own meaning from the unexplainable (spiritual feeling) experiences i have had... but i wont, because i have this uncanny inability to be dishonest with myself. Because i know, deep down into the center of my being, that i have no idea what this experience is or why it is happening, and i have the courage, strength and wisdom to accept that.

...Unfortunately most are so emotionally tied to their subjective perception of reality, that nothing anyone can say or do will help them realize that.

I don't think labeling a experience changes the experience at all. Your dog can die and you will feel grief. If you say that your dog died, you will still feel grief. I must not get what you're saying.

Or are you talking about the times where I've been really down in the dumps and instead of digging deeper in grief I prayed to god? Like I convinced myself that I would change for this god and literally felt a chill down my spine (experience). Many would say this is god reaching into your soul and helping you to become a better person, but in reality, it was just me as a human feeling better because I would change what I didn't like in myself.
My emotions once convinced me that there is a god, but science says that it's only a bunch of chemicals mixing in my brain.. So my emotions led me astray and caused me to believe my experience was a "spiritual" experience.
Am I still off? If so, then I'm too stoned for this and I shall return later.